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Who is the Most Hated Person in the History of the Animation Industry?         


Author: TMC1982
Date: May 21, 2008 01:34

*Peggy Charren - Peggy Charren spearheaded a major movement (via her
watchdog group Action for Children's Television or ACT) to censor
cartoons during the 1970s and 1980s. In essence, she was pretty much
telling and bullying networks that animated shows couldn't show
violence and "anti-social behavior". In the end this left with really
no other option for viewers to only watch "pro-social" cartoons that
fits into her parameters. In return, Peggy Charren's biggest legacy
was probably that of the Children's Television Act of 1990. The
Children's Television Act of 1990 was further strengthened in about
1996 via the three hours of education mandate on broadcast networks.
Ironically, it really is the only reason Saturday morning cartoons
still exist among over-the-air broadcasters, since all the...
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Re: Who is the Most Hated Person in the History of the Animation Industry?         


Author: Patrick McNamara
Date: May 21, 2008 08:42

gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f4f41a85-0d86-4fe3-a480-9403407462d4@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> *Peggy Charren - Peggy Charren spearheaded a major movement (via her

She may have led it, but it was parents (primarily mothers) who pushed for
it. The Comic Book Code also greatly contributed to this idea.
>
> *Alfred Kahn - Alfred Kahn is the CEO of 4Kids Entertainment. Kahn has

Alot of anime wouldn't fit the CTA requirements. I would blame the CTA, not
Kahn.
>
> *Fred Calvert - Fred Calvert is the man who was chosen to finish "The
> Thief and the Cobbler" (or "Arabian Knight" as it was theatrically
> released as in the United States in 1995) after Richard Williams was
> fired from his 20+ year pet project.

I had the impression the task was assigned to him. It's hard to say if it
even would have been finished if Williams held onto it.
> *Michael Eisner - Eisner gained a reputation during his time as the
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Re: Who is the Most Hated Person in the History of the Animation Industry?         


Author: Derek Janssen
Date: May 21, 2008 10:33

Patrick McNamara wrote:
> gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f4f41a85-0d86-4fe3-a480-9403407462d4@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>>*Peggy Charren - Peggy Charren spearheaded a major movement (via her
>
> She may have led it, but it was parents (primarily mothers) who pushed for
> it. The Comic Book Code also greatly contributed to this idea.

It was her half-formed bill that briefly shackled network animation's
range of allowable subjects, and stuck us with nothing but
"Doug"/"Recess" schoolkid clones for most of the entire 90's, before the
industry eventually learned to ignore her...
>>*Fred Calvert - Fred Calvert is the man who was chosen to finish "The
>>Thief and the Cobbler" (or "Arabian Knight" as it was theatrically
>>released as in the United States in 1995) after Richard Williams was
>>fired from his 20+ year pet project.
>
> I had the impression the task was assigned to him. It's hard to say if it
> even would have been finished if Williams held onto it.
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Author: Juan F. Lara
Date: May 21, 2008 10:19

You forgot Frederic DuChau.

- Juan F. Lara
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Re: Who is the Most Hated Person in the History of the Animation Industry?         


Author: Arty McToon
Date: May 21, 2008 14:41

A hate list for full animation "purists":

William Hanna and Joseph Barbera- limited tv animation pioneers.
Repeating backgrounds, only the lips, arms, and legs of the characters
move. Produced nothing but copies of "Scooby Doo" in the 1970s.

Lou Scheimer- Filmation Studios- Adapted good established ideas with
constantlly re-used animation movements and character designs.
Stories taught (shudder) lessons.

Mark Fowler- FCC chairman in the 1980s. Allowed weekday toy-based tv
cartoon shows to premiere (the last being the 1970s "Hot Wheels"
show) beginning with "He-Man".

Andy Heyward- DIC productions. Produced a lot of 1980s-era tv
cartoons...lots of overacting Canadian voice talent and cheap Japanese
animation.
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Author: Arty McToon
Date: May 21, 2008 14:49

On May 21, 2:41 pm, Arty McToon gmail.com> wrote:
> A hate list for full animation "purists":
>
> William Hanna and Joseph Barbera-  limited tv animation pioneers.
> Repeating backgrounds, only the lips, arms, and legs of the characters
> move.  Produced nothing but copies of "Scooby Doo" in the 1970s.
>
> Lou Scheimer- Filmation Studios-  Adapted good established ideas with
> constantlly re-used animation movements and character designs.
> Stories taught (shudder) lessons.
>
> Mark Fowler-  FCC chairman in the 1980s.  Allowed weekday toy-based tv
> cartoon shows to premiere (the last being the 1970s "Hot Wheels"
> show)  beginning with "He-Man".
>
> Andy Heyward- DIC productions.  Produced a lot of 1980s-era tv
> cartoons...lots of overacting Canadian voice talent and cheap Japanese...
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Author: Derek Janssen
Date: May 21, 2008 14:52

Arty McToon wrote:
> A hate list for full animation "purists":
>
> William Hanna and Joseph Barbera- limited tv animation pioneers.
> Repeating backgrounds, only the lips, arms, and legs of the characters
> move. Produced nothing but copies of "Scooby Doo" in the 1970s.

Among Cartoon Network Gen-X zombies, yes.
Among actual animation enthusiasts, no:

The historians credit Bill & Joe with, quote, "saving" animation by
bringing exclusive toons to that new TV medium, after most studios
closed down their animation divisions in the 50's--
And giving a lot of the classic guys a reason to keep on working,
including WB's Warren Foster and Michael Maltese (and their taste for
old-radio Jack Benny humor), and Dan Gordon of wartime-Popeye fame.
(Hey, they couldn't *all* go over and work for Walter Lantz, like Tex did.)
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Author: Arty McToon
Date: May 21, 2008 17:13

>
>> William Hanna and Joseph Barbera-  limited tv animation pioneers.
>> Repeating backgrounds, only the lips, arms, and legs of the characters
>> move.  Produced nothing but copies of "Scooby Doo" in the 1970s.
>
> Among Cartoon Network Gen-X zombies, yes.
> Among actual animation enthusiasts, no:
>
> The historians credit Bill & Joe with, quote, "saving" animation by
> bringing exclusive toons to that new TV medium, after most studios
> closed down their animation divisions in the 50's--
> And giving a lot of the classic guys a reason to keep on working,
> including WB's Warren Foster and Michael Maltese (and their taste for
> old-radio Jack Benny humor), and Dan Gordon of wartime-Popeye fame.
> (Hey, they couldn't *all* go over and work for Walter Lantz, like Tex did.)
>
> Oh, and ftr, CN-Boy, Bill&Joe produced Scooby-Doo (hoping to keep the
> "adventure" idea going with their success on Jonny Quest), but most of
> the 70's clones were under Charles Nichols and Iwao Takamoto's watch,
> after studio regimes changed-- ...
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Author: Anim8rFSK
Date: May 21, 2008 18:43

In article ,
Derek Janssen nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
>>>*Michael Eisner - Eisner gained a reputation during his time as the
>>
>> I understand he also use to program ABCs Saturday morning back in the 70s.
>> He single-handedly destroyed Disney animation...
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Author: Derek Janssen
Date: May 21, 2008 19:26

Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>And who, twelve years later went on to take credit for half of Disney's
>>hits, and stealing most of the others for another studio--whose
>>animation job he'd gotten on the strength of claiming credit for "Lion
>>King"--before making the (albeit misquoted) sweeping pronouncements that
>>instrumentally CAUSED Eisner to singlehandedly destroy Disney animation.
>>
>>There is no Eisner history without Jeffrey Katzenberg. No cel studio
>>would have been destroyed in 2002 without Shrek or Sinbad.
>>The two execs will be forever linked in historical destiny.
>
>
> You like Katz a *lot* more than I do.

Checked out his recent interviews on "Kung Fu Panda"?

Where a opening flashback scene was reportedly done in 2-D animation
(partly for obvious movie parody, and partly to save time)...
And how does Mr. "Tra-Digital"/"2-D is dead" play it, with the new Frog
Princess/Enchanted revival mania sweeping across the rest of the industry?:
"We saw it as our 'handwritten love letter' to the earlier style...")
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