> I can imagine why animators might not like mocap (aka "mocrap"), but rather
> than assume, it seemed better to get it straight from the source's mouth. Or
> is it a minority view or generational view where some like mocap or even
> prefer it?

> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>

>> I can imagine why animators might not like mocap (aka "mocrap"), but
>> rather than assume, it seemed better to get it straight from the source's
>> mouth. Or is it a minority view or generational view where some like
>> mocap or even prefer it?

>
> Think the lesson we've learned from Robert Zemeckis (I take it you're
> posting this after having seen the Beowulf trailer too) is the trap of
> producers, directors and studios thinking mocap/crap is "too easy"
> compared to actual artistic CGI animation or actual live-action.
> And anything that makes directors think art is "too easy" to create is its
> own worst enemy.
>
> (And then we can go back to the old Polar Express arguments about how it's
> really, really old and tech-illiterate people who still go "Ooo!" when
> they see "realistic" mocap CGI.)
> ...

>Ken from Chicago wrote:
>

>> I can imagine why animators might not like mocap (aka "mocrap"), but rather
>> than assume, it seemed better to get it straight from the source's mouth. Or
>> is it a minority view or generational view where some like mocap or even
>> prefer it?

>
>Think the lesson we've learned from Robert Zemeckis (I take it you're
>posting this after having seen the Beowulf trailer too) is the trap of
>producers, directors and studios thinking mocap/crap is "too easy"
>compared to actual artistic CGI animation or actual live-action.
>And anything that makes directors think art is "too easy" to create is
>its own worst enemy.
>
>(And then we can go back to the old Polar Express arguments about how
>it's really, really old and tech-illiterate people who still go "Ooo!"
>when they see "realistic" mocap CGI.)
> ...

>On the other hand, MoCap could be used as a decent starting point.
>The next film done by the group that did Zombie Express did
>Monster House. They used a filter to reduce the keys from their
>MoCap and turn it into keys with eases and then they went and
>hand-tweaked the keys. As a result, the character animation was
>FAR more believable in Monster House than it's predicessor. ...
>Now if only they'd learn to animate a friggin' bouncing ball
>instead of using the physics solver for it. Ugh.

> Here! This explains Mocap (and those gawdawful commercials constantly
> on my TV where they promise a career as an animator in just 500 easy
> payments.)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/CalartsAnimation
>

>Here! This explains Mocap (and those gawdawful commercials constantly
>on my TV where they promise a career as an animator in just 500 easy
>payments.)
>
>http://www.youtube.com/user/CalartsAnimation

> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:39:33 -0000, circle@armory.com (Samantha, the
> Rainbow Goddess) wrote:
>
>

>>Here! This explains Mocap (and those gawdawful commercials constantly
>>on my TV where they promise a career as an animator in just 500 easy
>>payments.)
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/user/CalartsAnimation

>
> Thanks, but I've seen enough "special features" to know what MoCap
> /is/.

> Paul S. Person wrote:
>

>> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:39:33 -0000, circle@armory.com (Samantha, the
>> Rainbow Goddess) wrote:
>>
>>

>>>Here! This explains Mocap (and those gawdawful commercials constantly
>>>on my TV where they promise a career as an animator in just 500 easy
>>>payments.)
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/user/CalartsAnimation

>>
>> Thanks, but I've seen enough "special features" to know what MoCap
>> /is/.

>
> Yes, but we do have to stand back and appreciate just how much the younger
> crowd (and older guard) really DO loathe it as an artform, no matter how
> big a movie Robert Zemeckis thinks he can deal-make... ...