On Mar 17, 10:27 am, Derek Janssen
comcast.net> wrote:> Lee Ratner wrote:
>
>>>>Frankly I don't think any animated feature not in the mold of kids
>>>>cartoons is likely to make it on the ballot. Paprika was the third Kon
>>>>Satoshi feature to be submitted over the past few years, none got past
>>>>the committee.
>
>>>Artsy-Theatrical-Ambiguous anime (as opposed to nice, harmless,
>>>commercial Ghibli) doesn't sit well with the committee's patience, and
>>>the Foreign Film committees feeling pressured to like Ponpoko and
>>>Mononoke hasn't helped the situation in the past, either--
>
>> It goes against their sensiblities as to what animation should
>> be. Like the NYT review said,
Which reviewer, may I ask?
> Actually, the one time an unidentified member of the Foreign Film
> committee posted on raam regarding the Mononoke FF-push,
Could you help me find the original post? A quick Google Groups
search didn't help, and I'd love to hang such a post on my bathroom
door :)
> he claimed most
> of the members felt the movie messaging was rather "hamhanded", weren't
> impressed by the "emotional lack" of the movie's one-sided characters,
> and had their interest drawn in by the other more complex real-films.
So long as these same folks didn't vote for, say, Crash, I will accept
their argument.
> ...Which brings us back to why Paprika, Millenium Actress or GITS2
> weren't nominated:
> The committee work for a living and didn't HAVE to like them.
It would be nice if they liked something that wasn't so conventionally
commercial, for a change.
I would never state that the Animated Feature Film nominators are
inconsistent. In fact, their consistent pimping of commercial
Holylwood product is precisely what irks me. Every year, the message
from the nomination selectors is not "be innovative" or "be
challenging", but "Dance, monkey, dance!"
What is the incentive for animators to NOT shuck and jive for the
Academy?
> Derek Janssen (who wouldn't think twice about kicking those three out of
> bed either)
> eja...@
comcast.net
If we only kicked out films that didn't deserve to be nominated, we'd
have an even shorter list of nominees than the three we've gotten in
most years.
If we're bitching about the nomination of mediocre films, why not
replace the conventionally mediocre with the ambtiously mediocre?
Personally, I'd rather have an artsy-fartsy, animated textbook like
GITS 2 over a boilerplate, animated romantic comedy farce like Shark
Tale, but that's just me.
I guess no nominator ever walked out on a film that didn't surprise
them at any point.
Terrence Briggs
Peace to you...
