On Sep 15, 10:02Â am, Invid Fan
loclanet.com> wrote:>> On Sep 14, 9:44Â pm, Captain Nerd
nerdwatch.com> wrote:>>> In article
registered.motzarella.org>,
>>> Â "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:>
>>>> David Johnston wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:27:06 -0700, Antonio E. Gonzalez
>>>>>
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>>>>>>> is a beardless, average size Japanese high school boy named Narugami
>>>>>>> who wields a boken rather than a hammer. I really like Mythical
>>>>>>> Detective Loki and I like Narugami but I was always slightly disturbed
>>>>>>> of the changes made to Thor to make him culturally acceptable.
>>>>>>> Narugami is a nice character but I really can't see him as an
>>>>>>> incarnation of Thor.
>>>>>> Â Ummm, you've really never seen the long-lived Marvel Comics version
>>>>>> of Thor?
>
>>>>> Yeah but at least he had a hammer. Â
>
>>>> Â Â And looks very Nordic. Yes, he's not the image that the NORSE had of
>>>> Thor (and in fact they've acknowledged that several times in the
>>>> comics), but at least he makes sense as an image of Thor.
>
>>> Â Â Could be worse, look what they did to King Arthur in that one
>>> Â Â anime...
>
>>> Â Â Cap.
>
>> Â Â Â If you are talking about Fate/Stay Night, that is really bad.
>> Not only was the change only made for fan-service purposes, it was
>> justified with the worse faux-feminism.
>
> Given I saw Fate/Stay Night and don't remember an Arthur connection, it
> must really be bad :)
See spoilers bellow.
> We could probably have an entire thread about Non-Japanese
> sources/influences that have been butchered in anime. Their take on
> Christianity is always a laugh, for example.
>
Like how they think that nuns in the Roman Catholic Church have a
function similar to Shinto mikos..
I find their take on anything American pretty laughable to. Most
of the anime set in America is set in the big cities like New York or
Chicago. Yet, they really do not understand how ethnically, racially,
and religiously diverse these cities are and all the Ameircans tend
towards WASP.
We could also have a threat on who panders to fan expectations
more, Japanese creators or Western creators. A strong argument that
Japanse creators are much more likely to cave in and pander to what
their fans want. An example can be made in shows that deal with men
stranded in the wilderness somewhere. Facial hair is only slightly
more popular amoung women outside of Japan than in it but most shows
and movies dealing with a male or many male characters stranded from
civilization will depct their head, facial, and body hair growing
increasingly long. In Japan this is rare.* When the lead male of
Please Save My Earth is the last one on the satelite, is head hair
grows long and luxurious over the years but he never grows any facial
hair or body hair. You can't argue that this is because of his species
because his guardian is depicted heavily bearded. It is only because
the creators pandered to the tastes of their fans. Fanservice is good
but not to the point of ridiculousness.
*One thing that is admirable about Yuu Watase is that she does
admit that men do grow body and facial hair and need to shave. In a
few of her manga, male characters who were living in isolation from
society for a few years have been depicted with facial hair that they
did shave off when they rejoined society. She could have pandered like
the other shoujo creators but she choose not to.
Fate/Stay Night Spoilers:
Saber the main character is really King Arthur. In the Fate/Stay
Night universe, King Arthur was a young woman who had to pretend to be
a man to lead her sexist subjects. This make the decision seem
feminist. The real reason was of couse because they needed a lead
woman for the lead man to get together with and for some reason they
decided not to use one of the myriad of heroines from Western
mythology. A really stupid choice IMO.
