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Re: (Semi-OT) Why I think WALL-E will do phenomenal in Japan         

Group: rec.arts.animation · Group Profile
Author: Terrence Briggs
Date: Jul 18, 2008 19:20

Don't let our in-jokes and all-purpose geekery put anyone off. Feel
free to chime in, in a diplomatic way.

On Jul 12, 12:47 am, "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" UofR.SlamSpam.net>
wrote:
> Fri, 11 Jul 2008 6:49pm-0700, Terrence Briggs lycos.com>:
>
>> Warning: Geekspeak ahoy...
>
>> S.t.A.n.L.e.E wrote:
>>> Sun, 6 Jul 2008 8:47am-0700, Terrence Briggs lycos.com>:


> And it hath begun!
>
>      Can WALL-E Win Best Picture?
>      http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1820824,00.html

Only if Dark Knight doesn't steal it!!!!!

Pipe down, buzz-pumpers; it's only July. The Oscar bait doesn't roll
in until September :-P
>>>> On Jul 1, 2:53�am, "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" UofR.SlamSpam.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Tue, 1 Jul 2008 2:47am-0400, S.t.A.n.L.e.E UofR.SlamSpam.net>:
>
>>>>>> Just saw WALL-E with kids late at night in a packed theatre
>>>>>> with a healthy mix of teenagers and other grown-ups with kids:
>
>>>> Sat next to two adult lovebirds in my theater.  To their credit, they
>>>> weren't making out.  I think...
>
>>> The teens are most likely the ones.  ;-)
>
>> I didn't ask if they were legal or anything.  I'm not THAT kind of
>> journalist.
>
> A journalist shouldn't be afraid to seek the truth.  *tsk*tsk*

I'm a *scrupulous* journalist, not some nosy TMZ spy...
> Speaking of, those 2 Chun-Li girls are still looking for their article.

=========BEGIN ARTICLE============
Intrepid Convention Noob Photographs Marketers Posing as Chun Li
Facsimiles
by Terrence Briggs

Nuff said.

[freelance photographer Stanlee D contributed to this report]
=========END ARTICLE===========


>>>> Okay, Mr. Machinehead-with-extra-pouty-Summer Glau-OS-XXX, how well
>>>> did Osamu Tezuka's Metropolis do in Japan?
>
>>> Was Metropolis released widely in Japan?
>
>> Dunno.  Aren't you our man in Japan with the news articles and stuff?
>
> When was that?!  Not in Japan.  ^_^

So... you don't know either.
>>>>>> 3. WALL-E is a weak nothing-going-for-him sweet romantic packrat geek;
>
>>>> Kinda bottom-heavy, too.  Rusty and all that.  The female, on the
>>>> other hand...
>
>>> I cannot lie: she likes big butts.  ^_^
>>> But then, she's an egg.
>
>> Ha!  Good one.
>
> Good that you still have that sense of humor.

I have a sense of smell, if that's what you're implying :-)
>>>>>> � �EVE is a dominant goddess-powered never-propositioned kinda-tsundere.
>
>>>> Heh.  So I wasn't the only one who picked up on the "exotic alien
>>>> warrior babe" vibe.
>
>>> Who wouldn't?!  She was/is scary!  0_0
>
>> But.. not all guys equate "scary warrior chicks" with "babe"
>
> Guys are always fond of gals who could kick their butts.  ^_^

Really? Most guys I know prefer the shrinking violet, passive
ladies. Ya know: Belldandy :-P
> (But sweet on the inside - tsundere.)

For the n00bs... "Define: tsundere"

A term used to describe behavior that seems harsh on the outside, but
caring on the inside.
[chewyanime.wordpress.com/otaku-terms/]

is a Japanese character archetype describing an initially combative
personality, which eventually becomes loving and emotionally
vulnerable ...
[en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundere]

Ripley
[Sigourney Weaver's voice]
>>>> But she looks like an iMac.  Oh, Steve Jobs... you product-placing
>>>> weasel chairman you :-)
>
>
>> Ew.  Otaku Mac pr0n.  Don't do that.
>
> Dude!  She's wearing an 1-piece!

Suitable for the [PG-rated] Animated Lust website, then? Tell it to
Human Resources...
>>> Or reverse OS-tan (hardware, instead of software)?
>>>      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-tan
>
>> Lemme guess, Unix is the one with the glasses, and the Mac OS 9 is the
>> pretty ditz? :-)
>
> No.  If you had clicked on the link, you'd know!  ^_^

Dude, I'm spending way too much time research Metropolis' Japanese
theatrical release. Don't make me research OS otaku loli stuff...


>>>>>> 5. WALL-E already mispronounces EVE's name as EV-uh.
>
>>>> Heh.  Japanese-friendly phenomes.  (No "L"s or "R"s, though :-P :-P :-
>>>> P )
>
>>> My little god-daughter kept wondering why WALL-E kept mispronouncing.  ^_^
>>> ("Her name's EVE!  Not EV-uh!  Why is he calling her that?!")
>
>> That's some castellan you got there.  She's gonna be just like me when
>> she grows up.
>
> Not how you portray yourself!  ;-p

What part of the portrait do you want avoided, then? :-)


>>>>>> 7. A future environmental moral message that'd make Hayao Miyazaki blush.
>
>>>> Your later post clears that up, by clearing out the room.  ("No no
>>>> no... it's not environmentally alarmist!  Really!  I was just being
>>>> imaginative!", is my paraphrase.)
>
>>> Hmmmm... but would Miyazaki still appreciate it?
>
>> Heh.  He'd probably grin at the subconscious messages he's implanted
>> into the minds of Hollywood's premiere animators.  "It's working!  And
>> they don't even suspect!"
>
>> BTW, NPR's Fresh Air interviewed Wall-E director Andrew Stanton on
>> Thursday, 7/10/08.  Got that podcast!
>
> Good you got it!

I buried it under all of my other NPR podcasts, apparently. I'll dig
it out later.
>>>>> 7b. Oh, there's a lot of flying, not just once but twice!
>
>>>> "Define: dancing"
>
>>> Ha!  That was corny of you.  ^_^
>
>> It was corny of the movie, too!
>
> Nah, it's just you.  ^_^

And where do you think I got it from?
>>>>>> 8. A social criticism about the hazards of over-reliance in technology.
>
>>>> In a CGI animated film, nah!!!! :-)
>
>>> Ironic.
>
>> Or hypocritical.  But we reserve hypocricy charges for Dreamworks
>> films, don't we? :-)
>
> The difference being reliance vs. over-reliance.

That's too nuanced an argument for Dreamworks haters :-)
>>>>>> What else?
>
>>>> It's a Pixar film distributed by Disney.  The Mouse has Theatrical
>>>> Distribution Muscle.  The Lamp has Cinematic Currency.  It'll destroy
>>>> the competition in Japan.
>
>>> Well, besides that!
>>> But would you go out on a limb and say it'll outdraw Spirited Away?  >;-]
>
>> Hell-the-funk no.  Nothing will, until the next Titanic or something.
>
>> What does the Japanese box office look like, anyway?  Something
>> like...
>
>> 1) Spirited Away
>> 2) Howl's Moving Castle
>> 3) Titanic
>> 4) Princess Mononoke
>> 5) E.T.
>
> A year old:
>
> <http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070624062027AAaCZ8V>
>
>    1. Spirited Away, 2001, $228.6 million
>    2. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, 2002, $142.8 million
>    3. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, 2001, $127.7 million
>    4. Titanic, 1997, $101.8 million
>    5. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, 2002, $59.2 million
>    6. Star Wars, Episode 1: The Phantom Menace, 1999, $50.8 million
>    7. Princess Mononoke, 1997, $50.0 million
>    8. The Case Book of Young Kindaichi, 1997, $47.6 million
>    9. Armageddon, 1998, $45.5 million
>   10. Independence Day, 1996, $44.2 million

That can't be right. I thought PM beat E.T. to become the all-time
champ, not ID4.
>> Maybe it'll beat E.T.
>
>> In this country, I believe Wall-E will beat Incredibles (which had a
>> similar-sized opening, but kinda underperformed over the long haul),
>> but not Finding Nemo.
>
> Yeah, among kids, fish will always beat love story.

Well, my prediction's looking a little shaky. Wall-E isn't holding up
as well as I had hoped.
>>>> Terrence Briggs, wrangling up some more European animation from
>>>> Netflix.  Cartoon Noir wasn't enough!
>>>> Peace to you...
>
>>> Try Russian:  http://tinyurl.com/5r8o9p
>
>> You could just give me the title, dude.  I was reading the post
>> offline, and couldn't follow the link.
>
> It's not a title.  ;-)

Well, if you'd TELL me this stuff, so I don't have to run to the
library to link to it... :-)

Terrence Briggs, got Vexille from Netflix. Man, the English track is
*SO* much better than the Japanese sub.
Peace to you...
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