Re: (OT) And, In Conclusion -- Kung Fu Panda
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Re: (OT) And, In Conclusion -- Kung Fu Panda         

Group: rec.arts.animation · Group Profile
Author: Terrence Briggs
Date: Jun 28, 2008 10:49

Okay, you're up, Sanjaya :-)

On Jun 8, 4:13 pm, "sanjian" vt.edu> wrote:
> Terrence Briggs wrote:
>> Reply crossposted to on-topic groups.  Followups set to
>> rec.arts.animation and rec.arts.movies.current-films.
>> Pop quiz, Mr. Netherlands:  How many lines did each of the Furios Five
>> get during the course of the movie?  With the exception of Tigress, I
>> doubt any of them had more than 5 lines.  (Jackie Chan only had 2.)
>> They were like cameos.  More stunt casting nonsense, but celebrity
>> nonsense makes for good PR sometimes.
>
> Crane and Mantis had a decent number of lines.

There's a legitimate split among viewers on this issue. Many
professional reviewers (and myself) were bothered by this, and an
equal number of viewers seem to accept that the Furious Five didn't
say much.
>>> Oogway, Shifu's master has a vision that Tai Lung
>>> (Ian McShane, with a level of menace that would make Scar from The
>>> Lion King proud), the most feared warrior ever, is about to escape
>>> his bonds and get revenge. A ceremony is held to choose the new
>>> Dragon Warrior. Due to an accident, Po inserts himself into the
>>> ceremony and is branded the Chosen One, much to the anger of Shifu
>>> and the others. They plot to overwhelm Po and bring on a new choice
>>> before it is too late.
>
>> Don't get me started on the plot.  "There are no accidents", sure, but
>
> Guzen ja nai.

No hablo Japones, dude. Babelfish translation, por favor? :-)
>> I'm really starting to tire of "chosen ones".  (It's bad enough when
>> the Asian soruce amterial uses it!)  Why can't big fat fanboy slob be
>> like Sammo Hung, and just want to learn Kung Fu and help his friends,
>> without being some mythical, mystical, divinely chosen doofus destined
>> for greatness by some prophecy?  Rant off.
>
> Think about how it feels for us absolute-free-will objectivists?  It's
> almost herasy to me.  The only Fate I care about shares a bed with Nanoha.

Ha! Is Fate a harsh mistress?


>> Without giving anything away, my main problem with the finale is an
>> expected problem: A previously unstoppable force gets mad and loses to
>> an inferior opponent.  Again, kid-friendly Hollywood storytelling
>> demands that the titular character will do everything himself.
>> (Rec.arts.anime.misc just had a discussion about that last month, with
>> respect to Naruto and Bleach, and that was anime!)
>
> They missed a chance for a really good line.  "Ok, TaiLung - you have the
> scroll, but are you able to understand it?"

How much you wanna bet they cut it from the final print? :-)

Terrence Briggs,
Peace to you...
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