On Jan 22, 4:11 pm, Derek Janssen
nospam.verizon.net> wrote:> Juan F. Lara wrote:
>> In article
aioe.org>,
>> Patrick Joseph Mc Namara yahoo.com> wrote:>
>>>The Oscar nominations came out today and not only did "Ratatouille" get
>>>nominated for Animated Feature Film, but it was also nominated for Original
>>>Screenplay, Sound Mixing, Sound Editing and Original Score. The other two
>>>animation nominees were "Persepolis" and "Surf's Up."
Why are you so certain that Persepolis won't win? The nominating
committees are a VERY small part of the voting body, which will
ultimately decide the winner. That's why The Color Purple went 0 for
11 :-)
>> Congratulations to "Surf's Up":
>> "Surf's Up" actually was a witty movie that carried out its mocumentary
>> format in an entrancing manner.
>
> It was actually the mockumentary style that made the ex-Pixar
> refugee/DW-wannabe jokes tolerably funny--
> Where Shrek3 kept pushing the jokes in the audience's faces, the
> "documentary" style let the penguins push their sitcom jokes in each
> others' faces, and we could sit back at a more comfortable removed
> distance behind safety glass. Much less tension.
That's actually a pretty good way of putting it. (Haven't seen Shrek
3 yet, but Shrek 2 definitely suffered from that.)
Surf's Up, for all it's accomplishments, seems awfully light to me.
Yeah, yeah, Jeff Daniels plays a penguin Big Lebowski. Jennifer
Saunders played a Fairy Godmather in Shrek 2, and I don't hear anyone
praising that bit of casting :-) No way it wins anything, Annie or
Oscar.
>> Congratulations to "Persepolis":
>> Sony Picture Classics is being way to limited in its distribution of this
>> movie. I was worried that it would fall into obscurity. But thankfully the
>> academy noticed. I hope then that SPC will be inspired to try a wider
>> distribution. Say 100 theaters at least?
Sony screwed Tekkonkinkreet. They need to wake up, and NOT screw
Persepolis. I'm thinking at least 100 film prints, with at least two
weeks of screenings in every metro area with at least 500,000 people.
Or at provide On-Demand screenings between now and March, so the
podunk, Philisitine flyover areas get a chance to see this movie
during nomination season. (Gotta reach those Hollywood expatriates in
Idaho and Utah. Demi, baby! Have I got a movie for YOU!!!")
>> Congratulations to "Ratatouile":
>> Wow, I'm impressed with all the nominations this movie has received.
I'm not. Brad Bird got a nod for Incredibles' script, too, and
animated films are getting nods for techincal awards pretty often. I
believe Polar Express and Incredibles got Sound Mixing nomiations in
the past?
>> But
>> I'll save my biggest congratulations for when it wins its BAF oscar. :-)
What? It's up for a British Oscar, too :-)
Sorry. A little BAFTA humor.
>> Actually, the presence of "Persepolis" does not make this a sure thing. I
>> think that film could still upset. But for now I think "Ratatouile" is the
>> favorite, and it deserves to be so. It's my pick for best CGI furry film yet
>> made.
Okay, then what's the best non-furry CGI film yet made?
> I like it and all--and I've been forced to be diehard Pixar defender
> after the "Cars musta flopped!" mess of '06--and I've got to admit, even
> I'm puzzled...
> Oh, it's cute and all, and it's nice to see cooking finally treated as
> something worthwhile--
Uh...
Eat Drink Man Woman?
Like Water For Chocolate?
Big Night?
No Reservations? (Ratatouille's live-action competition )
The Cook, The Thief... eh... maybe not...
> but as Pixar movies go, it's just, y'know...no
> "Toy Story 2". 0_o??
Which was no "Toy Story". Then again, what is? Stop setting the bar
so high, dude :-)
> With all the box-office bashing, I was afraid to say in public that Cars
> felt like "generic bar-code Pixar",
There is no fear in this dojo, Mr. Treasure Planet :-)
> but when all of a sudden the rats
> started saying "Keep moving forward", I felt like somebody had gotten
> their movies mixed up at the studio.
>
> The public liked "Ratatouille", but theory: Is it possible the reason
> the critics are going excessively and inexplicably wild over it is
> because we have a nice cuddly ending about the humanity of *critics*??
Not theory, hypothesis. And don't go there, DJ. "There" is surely
the road to madness.
For example, forget what AO Scott said about Anton Ego ("Ce moi!")...
Why did the critics like Incredibles so much, then? Is it because the
elitist critics empathized with the emasculated superhumans forced to
attenuate their talents just to fit in? It's Sideways all over
again! AO Scott was right!!!
>
> Ask the average mainstream non-fan to name ANY other scene in the movie
> besides "Spider-pig, spider-pig..."
Ugh. And that one wasn't even funny in the trailers.
> (And when you stop to think that even *that* scene may have found its
> way into Fox's movie because every other studio with a big flagship
> movie that summer was throwing pissy schoolyard in-jokes at a certain
> Sony comic-book movie we all THOUGHT was going to be the unstoppable
> blockbuster juggernaut of Summer '07...)
>
> Derek Janssen (kind of a historical relic, now)
> ejan...@
verizon.net
Well, like many lame pop-culture references, it also works as all-
purpose stupidity. In 20 years, people will STILL laugh at stupid
Homer humor, even if all they can remember is the theme song to the
1970s (?) Spiderman TV series.
Terrence Briggs, don't give audiences TOO much credit
Peace to you...
