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Author: Johnny RebelJohnny Rebel Date: Nov 16, 2007 00:26
WindsorFox wrote:
> Mister2u wrote:
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> Well, they should all be imprisoned for murder. The security told
> them numerous times he did not speak English and they had zero business
> even going in at all until they had an interpretor. They are all guilty
> of murder IMHO.
>
Well, not sure if they didn't have reason to 'go in' until an
interpretor arrived, but they really didn't need to use a taser on him
and could have gotten him down without that. As for them being guilty
of murder, I agree.
JR.
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Author: Snoogens MurphySnoogens Murphy Date: Nov 16, 2007 00:58
On Nov 15, 6:26 pm, Johnny Rebel wrote:
> WindsorFox wrote:
>> Mister2u wrote:
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>> Well, they should all be imprisoned for murder. The security told
>> them numerous times he did not speak English and they had zero business
>> even going in at all until they had an interpretor. They are all guilty
>> of murder IMHO.
>
> Well, not sure if they didn't have reason to 'go in' until an
> interpretor arrived, but they really didn't need to use a taser on him
> and could have gotten him down without that. As for them being guilty
> of murder, I agree.
>
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Author: JEJE Date: Nov 16, 2007 02:11
On 2007-11-15, Snoogens Murphy gmail.com> wrote:> On Nov 15, 6:26 pm, Johnny Rebel wrote:
>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>> Mister2u wrote:
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>>> Well, they should all be imprisoned for murder. The security told
>>> them numerous times he did not speak English and they had zero business
>>> even going in at all until they had an interpretor. They are all guilty
>>> of murder IMHO.
>>
>> Well, not sure if they didn't have reason to 'go in' until an
>> interpretor arrived, but they really didn't need to use a taser on him
>> and could have gotten him down without that. As for them being guilty
>> of murder, I agree.
>>
>
> Murder? Give me a break. To find them guilty of murder you have to ...
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Author: Snoogens MurphySnoogens Murphy Date: Nov 16, 2007 10:09
On Nov 15, 8:11 pm, JE hotmail.com> wrote:> On 2007-11-15, Snoogens Murphy gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Nov 15, 6:26 pm, Johnny Rebel wrote:
>>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>>> Mister2u wrote:
>
>>>> Well, they should all be imprisoned for murder. The security told
>>>> them numerous times he did not speak English and they had zero business
>>>> even going in at all until they had an interpretor. They are all guilty
>>>> of murder IMHO.
>
>>> Well, not sure if they didn't have reason to 'go in' until an
>>> interpretor arrived, but they really didn't need to use a taser on him
>>> and could have gotten him down without that. As for them being guilty ...
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Author: Johnny RebelJohnny Rebel Date: Nov 16, 2007 11:15
Snoogens Murphy wrote:
> On Nov 15, 6:26 pm, Johnny Rebel wrote:
>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>> Mister2u wrote:
>>> Well, they should all be imprisoned for murder. The security told
>>> them numerous times he did not speak English and they had zero business
>>> even going in at all until they had an interpretor. They are all guilty
>>> of murder IMHO.
>> Well, not sure if they didn't have reason to 'go in' until an
>> interpretor arrived, but they really didn't need to use a taser on him
>> and could have gotten him down without that. As for them being guilty
>> of murder, I agree.
>>
>
> Murder? Give me a break. To find them guilty of murder you have to
> show that they wanted to kill him. Do you honestly believe that was
> their intent? "Hey guys, let's kill this crazy foreigner!" ...
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Author: Natalie MunroNatalie Munro Date: Nov 16, 2007 13:48
Johnny Rebel (rebelATT@magmaDOTT.ca) writes:
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> I suspect you are correct in that, but you could get them with excessive
> force causing death - or some variation of that. Either way, they
> killed the guy.
Either way, the guy is dead and no-one knows why yet. It may have nothing
to do with the taser or anything else that the cops did.
I watched the video and while it didn't show much of what happened before
the tasering, I've heard that the guy had been behaving erratically for
some time. During the video, I could hear the cops the trying to talk
him, and they were being calm about it. He had ample opportunity to
settle down and he either wouldn't or couldn't.
The cops have a mandate to protect the public and themselves. They never
know what kind of risk they are facing. How many extreme videos have we
seen where a cop gets shot during a simple traffic stop? It's not as if
we haven't had two good examples lately of what can happen to cops who go
into unknown situations. What if this guy had had a knife? What if he
had had HIV and he bit a cop? Or a bystander?
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Author: finarfinjgefinarfinjge Date: Nov 16, 2007 14:54
On Nov 16, 4:09 am, Snoogens Murphy gmail.com> wrote:> On Nov 15, 8:11 pm, JE hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On 2007-11-15, Snoogens Murphy gmail.com> wrote:>
>>> On Nov 15, 6:26 pm, Johnny Rebel wrote:
>>>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>>>> Mister2u wrote:
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>>>>> Well, they should all be imprisoned for murder. The security told
>>>>> them numerous times he did not speak English and they had zero business
>>>>> even going in at all until they had an interpretor. They are all guilty
>>>>> of murder IMHO. ...
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Author: JBJB Date: Nov 16, 2007 16:06
On Nov 16, 7:48 am, aa...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Natalie Munro) wrote:
> Johnny Rebel (rebel...@magmaDOTT.ca) writes:
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>> I suspect you are correct in that, but you could get them with excessive
>> force causing death - or some variation of that. Either way, they
>> killed the guy.
>
> Either way, the guy is dead and no-one knows why yet. It may have nothing
> to do with the taser or anything else that the cops did.
Excessive force causing death? Maybe. However, all methods of
subduing a suspect displaying agression have their pro's and con's.
Using batons or physical force is quite violent and a misdirected blow
can also kill on contact and usually leads to policy brutality
claims. It's a public relations nightmare alternative.
Pepper Spray has been linked to blindness and even death in recipients
with respiratory problems aggravated by the spray. Also, pepper spray
has a nasty habit of backfiring on the user. The Police don't really
like using it.
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Author: Mister2uMister2u Date: Nov 16, 2007 16:51
It will get whitewashed by the SIU,if there's a civil suit they will
settle out of court.
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Author: Snoogens MurphySnoogens Murphy Date: Nov 16, 2007 22:34
On Nov 16, 8:54 am, finarfin...@ gmail.com wrote: > On Nov 16, 4:09 am, Snoogens Murphy gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Nov 15, 8:11 pm, JE hotmail.com> wrote:>
>>> On 2007-11-15, Snoogens Murphy gmail.com> wrote:>
>>>> On Nov 15, 6:26 pm, Johnny Rebel wrote:
>>>>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>>>>> Mister2u wrote:
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>>>>>> Well, they should all be imprisoned for murder. The security told
>>>>>> them numerous times he did not speak English and they had zero business
>>>>>> even going in at all until they had an interpretor. They are all guilty
>>>>>> of murder IMHO. ...
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