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Author: ScratchScratch Date: May 9, 2008 15:19
Vegetable oil fuels cars -- and tax bills
Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times
GREEN IDEA: Matthew Tiffany, 26, of Monrovia fills his 1981 diesel
Mercedes with fryer grease from a neighborhood restaurant. His effort to
launch a fuel cooperative failed because of red tape.
Diesel owners who switch to cooking grease can run afoul of the law. Just
ask the governor.
By Evan Halper, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
May 6, 2008
Dave Eck, a Half Moon Bay mechanic, had attracted a media spotlight with
his fleet of vehicles fueled by used fryer grease from a local chowder
house. So when Sacramento called, he figured officials wanted advice on
promoting alternative fuels.
Not at all. The government rang to notify Eck that he was a tax cheat. He
was scolded for failing to get a "diesel fuel supplier's license,"
reporting quarterly how many gallons of grease he burns, and paying a tax
on each gallon.
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Date: May 9, 2008 16:03
On Fri, 09 May 2008 17:19:46 -0500, Scratch
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>Vegetable oil fuels cars -- and tax bills
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>Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times
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>GREEN IDEA: Matthew Tiffany, 26, of Monrovia fills his 1981 diesel
>Mercedes with fryer grease from a neighborhood restaurant...
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Author: Lobby DosserLobby Dosser Date: May 9, 2008 18:33
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 17:19:46 -0500, Scratch
> wrote:
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>>Vegetable oil fuels cars -- and tax bills
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>>Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times
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>>GREEN IDEA...
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Author: Hound AdamsHound Adams Date: May 9, 2008 19:18
Lobby Dosser wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 17:19:46 -0500, Scratch
>> wrote:
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>>> Vegetable oil fuels cars -- and tax bills
>>>
>>> Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times
>>>
>>> GREEN IDEA: Matthew Tiffany, 26, of Monrovia fills his 1981 diesel
>>> Mercedes with fryer grease from a neighborhood restaurant. His effort
>>> to launch a fuel cooperative failed because of red tape.
>>> Diesel owners who switch to cooking grease can run afoul of the law.
>>> Just ask the governor.
>>>
>>> By Evan Halper, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
>>> May 6, 2008
>>>
>>> Dave Eck, a Half Moon Bay mechanic, had attracted a media spotlight ...
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Author: ScratchScratch Date: May 11, 2008 21:30
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 17:19:46 -0500, Scratch
> wrote:
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>>Vegetable oil fuels cars -- and tax bills
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>>Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times
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>>GREEN IDEA...
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Author: Bill ShatzerBill Shatzer Date: May 11, 2008 22:27
Scratch wrote:
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>>>Not at all. The government rang to notify Eck that he was a tax cheat.
>>>He was scolded for failing to get a "diesel fuel supplier's license,"
>>>reporting quarterly how many gallons of grease he burns, and paying a
>>>tax on each gallon.
>>Clue: The so-called Tax is not an ad valorem charge on the fuel, but
>>is really a User Fee for causing road wear.
>>The Mercedes the guy drives causes road wear. He really ought to pay
>>for it. You do, right?
>>Why should He get a free pass from the user fee for roads just because
>>he uses recycled cooking oil for his fuel? To the degree that he
>>doesn't pay for roads, you and everyone else pays for his share of
>>that cost.
> Typically liberal. Dig deep dig often into the pockets of 'other working
> people that have already paid taxes' to support more and bigger bloated
> government.
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Author: Bas MatiBas Mati Date: May 11, 2008 22:35
Bill Shatzer wrote:
> Scratch wrote:
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>>>> Not at all. The government rang to notify Eck that he was a tax cheat.
>>>> He was scolded for failing to get a "diesel fuel supplier's
>>>> license," reporting quarterly how many gallons of grease he burns,
>>>> and paying a
>>>> tax on each gallon.
>
>>> Clue: The so-called Tax is not an ad valorem charge on the fuel, but
>>> is really a User Fee for causing road wear.
>
>>> The Mercedes the guy drives causes road wear. He really ought to pay
>>> for it. You do, right?
> ...
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Author: Bas MatiBas Mati Date: May 11, 2008 22:36
Bill Shatzer wrote:
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"And over 4,000 Americans have paid with their lives for that little
adventure. Plus a half a trillion dollars in national treasure
You might compare that with the number of lives lost on 9-11. Or the
economic injury incurred from that event.
It would have been cheaper in both lives and money to just suffer
another 9-11 every six or seven years.
Peace and justice,"
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Date: May 12, 2008 08:04
On Sun, 11 May 2008 23:30:28 -0500, Scratch
wrote:
>> The Mercedes the guy drives causes road wear. He really ought to pay
>> for it. You do, right?
>>
>> Why should He get a free pass from the user fee for roads just because
>> he uses recycled cooking oil for his fuel? To the degree that he
>> doesn't pay for roads, you and everyone else pays for his share of
>> that cost.
>>
>Typically liberal. Dig deep dig often into the pockets of 'other working
>people that have already paid taxes' to support more and bigger bloated
>government.
But the other taxes don't pay for roads.
Without the roads, he wouldn't have a place to drive his Mercedes.
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Author: Bas MatiBas Mati Date: May 12, 2008 12:16
Don Homuth wrote:
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 23:30:28 -0500, Scratch
> wrote:
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>
>>> The Mercedes the guy drives causes road wear. He really ought to pay
>>> for it. You do, right?
>>>
>>> Why should He get a free pass from the user fee for roads just because
>>> he uses recycled cooking oil for his fuel? To the degree that he
>>> doesn't pay for roads, you and everyone else pays for his share of
>>> that cost.
>>>
>> Typically liberal. Dig deep dig often into the pockets of 'other working
>> people that have already paid taxes' to support more and bigger bloated
>> government.
> ...
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