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Group: ny.politics · Group Profile
Author: SikOfLibs
Date: Mar 20, 2007 18:39

Then perhaps you should talk to Al Gore, who recieves royalties from a
zinc mine that has been cited for adding large quantities of barium,
iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River, and for flying all over
the world spewing carbon emissions and pollution from his jet.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm

mcs wrote:
> I have seen babies and old people and adults suffer on the moderate or worse
> particulate days and yet they think its something randomly wrong. What wrong
> is govt has not mandated changes sooner. People are being murdered ! This is
> a conspiracy of huge proportion!
>
> Millions are under immediate threat. There is vast difference in health and
> condition between populations with good and bad pollution. The people who
> get bad particulate pollution ( moderate or worse most of time) are in a
> distinct
> disadvantage. You try getting your media or scientists to do comparitive
> data. I already did it.! and added to other studies show we are being
> poisoned and gassed and people are not protected. Kids in these states are
> being made to breath air that is killing them faster. This is not normal
> aging/1 Gosh not maybe its definitely! I compared lots of things and if they
> claimed other
> figures I can show they are lying. People are being murdered much faster
> because our govt refuses to do more faster to control pollution
> show me links to health?
> I showed you links to particulate pollution as measured by epa and if more
> studies were done, much much more correlations negatively by the way can be
> drawn, instead its ignored and drug companies come in the worse areas to
>>> Millions of Americns !!! get your politicians to get total traffic and
>>> co2
>>> emissions lowered, get
>>> buses retrofitted with
>>> pollution controls , get coal and diesel companies and car companies to
>>> reduce their pollution NOW .
>>>
>>>>>>> You guys are going to get information that you can't get anywhere
>>>>>>> else
>>>>> and
>>>>> this time its good information. Remember I tried to help people in this
>>>>> life,. I have to help people
>>>>> where our gov won't , where we pay politicians hundreds of thousands of
>>>>> dollars and they can't protect me or millions of others.. I am poor and
>>>>> will protect more people
>>>>> then they ever will
>>>>> My email mcsantpollution@yahoo.com
>>>>> I will post these links till I die cause I know this is the most
>>>>> important
>>>>> thing some people on the internet will ever see.
>>>>>> .In doing so I hope to promote better values that might come from
>>>>>> leaders eventually telling the truth and having compassion again for
>>>>>> people in our own country least we think protecting people from right
>>>>>> and wrong and real danagers isn't important anymore. Its about time
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> leaders and congress do the right things to start promoting values
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> our country that will make people care about each other. again. I
>>>>>> often
>>>>>> wonder if we have any role models for care and love and compassion
>>>>>> anymore
>>>> If. I suggest your in a min holocaust
>>>>> where you might or might not die faster, If your family is downwind
>>>>> from particulate pollution ( moderate) or worse 50 percent of the time
>>>>> or
>>>>> more I think its safe to suggest you and your family are not protected.
>>>>> I
>>>>> suggest your in a min holocaust
>>>>> where you might or might not die faster (probably you will in
>>>>> percentages
>>>>> and in proportion to total number of days and amounts of particulate
>>>>> pollution your family receives)
>>>>> but you will lose your health faster.I really think studies can prove
>>>>> that
>>>>> even more then it has.
>>>>> Food,..... people can change, the moderate or worse particulate
>>>>> pollution
>>>>> people
>>>>> can't change if they can't afford to move.. I was one of the first to
>>>>> suggest the main reason between
>>>>> cancer and no cancers , heart disease and no heart disease, aging and
>>>>> less
>>>>> aging often enough is because of differences between qualities of air
>>>>> especially of particulate pollution.. I already said I bet
>>>>> everything I own this is a
>>>>> consipiracy because something so important is ignored by tv press and
>>>>> by
>>>>> politiciansm but most important is to get this information out there. I
>>>>> didn't grow up believeing in conspiracies but now, I guess anything is
>>>>> possible.
>>>>> . Also our president quietly passing legislation where you can't
>>>>> sue the polluters shows the largest killing field on earth is pollution
>>>>> allowed to murder people and I said over and over it can be proved.
>>>>> Such
>>>>> effects I have felt and suffered from this pollution compared to where
>>>>> I
>>>>> didn't feel such consequences
>>>>> ---effects in clean air... such pollution I have seen collect
>>>>> in my filters, sooo many people I know in my town sicker and died
>>>>> youn,g
>>>>> compared to other areas
>>>>> who are well. soo many people happier and in better shape in clean air
>>>>> states compared to our murder central and early morbidity and kids
>>>>> getting
>>>>> asthma and many not graduating.. I know more
>>>>> then anything that we are ( some more then others ) without any
>>>>> protection
>>>>> under the law or constitution . It can be proved, the small amounts of
>>>>> links
>>>>> I have left proves some of it. Yet the poison goes on....
>>>>> Again the best way to judge damage from pollution is get to
>>>>> comparisons.
>>>>> Hundreds of ways to judge condition between two populations if they
>>>>> wanted
>>>>> to.... here are some: , stress tests, health cares costs, how many
>>>>> older
>>>>> people participate in 10ks and the time comparisons between them in
>>>>> this
>>>>> polluted city and those in
>>>>> clean air cities ( yes definitely) morbidity results, hospital
>>>>> admissions
>>>>> and age, the number
>>>>> of prescriptions per age groups, the ratio of people having heart
>>>>> attacks
>>>>> and cancer in two different regions, and of course the number of older
>>>>> people getting onset asthma , I already bet my life that
>>>>> people in polluted areas are way worse shapethen others in clean air
>>>>> places
>>>>> that ate the same
>>>>> healthy things. This is the missing link with politiicans in this area
>>>>> and
>>>>> press the biggest conspiracy of death since smoking and smokers.
>>>> http://www.emaxhealth.com/24/7741.html
>>>> Loss of freedom is when truth don't make a difference
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the meantime people will suffer knowingly or most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopeful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politicians,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unknowingly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I listed some things that we have that are horrible for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> city,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one not see how things are connected, yet people like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why is it on the coast and on Marthas Vineyards, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presidents die in their 90s, in Philadelphia, we are the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capital,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asthma capital ( most asthma then any city) , most respiratory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deaths
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then any city, morbidity 30 percent higher then average and no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything with our f rated air? No solution , not even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070314/ap_on_sc/coal_report
>>>>>>>>>>>>> American Lung Association rates our city an F for air quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Number one or two in asthma and asthma doctors, and death
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asthmaHere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are the most recent links , of cities with most asthma,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the link to 2006 most asthma link
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.asthmacapital.com/asthma_capitals2006.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=79126
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Number one or two the number of days our air reaches
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind that one study says does more harm then good if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the kind which automatically constricts lungs and a host
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> horrible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things ( the fact that they even did the studies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surprises
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F rating my American Lung Association
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most depressed city in the nation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1359647/posts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After adjusting for age distribution of the population,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> female
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mortality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was 20 percent higher!!!! then average for the US and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Male
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mortality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 33
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent higher then average! Is this healthy ? Or just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.phila.gov/health/hp2010/P...emperature.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bottom ten percent for air quality, in Sperlings list of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even low levels or particulates which we get more often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> city in the US causes elevated risks of stroke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally unlike some have said, I don't think the stats
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worse here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.americanheart.org/present...tifier=3045419
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a photo of my air filter after 29 days in air that had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particulate days out of 29 or worse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://s135.photobucket.com/albums/q141/stevephotobucket/?action=view¤t=IMG_0118...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is link to pollution and early death
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is link to where we are called Murder Capital
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/video/partners/cl...urder.city.cnn
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have NJ doing things , mandating emission
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to stop using coal near their cities and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other towns get upset if they have three warning days, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> air,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore it. The news media totally ignores all these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask you why? Kids I urge your parents to ask politicians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to stay healthy in air not conducive to exercise? Can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link or magical way of doing that ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how its done? How do you accept the possibility that when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the country health is improving , in Philly its actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amongst
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worse in several areas? Is there a magic reason for this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be ignored?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> ans,
>>>
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