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Author: usenetusenet
Date: Dec 6, 2007 07:03
On 5 Dec, 20:10, Whiskers operamail.com> wrote:
>> On 5 Dec, 18:28, Meat Plow petitmorte.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:59:31 -0800, usenet wrote:
>>>> What DOES a normal user have to do to ensure that archives are
>>>> PROPERLY managed
>>>> and that 'abuse' gets removed?
>
>>> Use a kill filter.
>
>> Noted, but there's sadly no option (currently) to setup a kill filter
>> on Google Groups.
Thanks for mentioning that... Do you have the developer details so
that it could be patched to filter
based on a number of other tactics? ...
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Author: usenetusenet
Date: Dec 6, 2007 06:53
On 5 Dec, 20:37, "Paul T. Holland" bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> ithink you may be confusing two separate issues
>
> 'abuse' is a relative term aplying to the specific situation/location in
> which a post is read. that it may be 'off-topic' isn't 'of itself'
> abuse - that would depend upon the atual charter under which the
> individual newsgroup was instituted.
>
> the majority of usenet groups are not moderated, and have no specific
> 'charter' rules about posts, rather they are pretty general and unless
> they mention the specific infraction you object to, a new server/isp
> isn't going to penalize their customer. see your group charter:http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.railway.html
>
> so - you can send a message to the 'poster's isp, but that's about it.
>
On a nunmber of oaccasions I have complained, only to find the
spammers ISP seemingly
won't act (presumably they do eventually if a lot of users complain.)
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Author: usenetusenet
Date: Dec 6, 2007 06:35
On 5 Dec, 19:58, Peter J Ross wrote:
>> Also by not removing some abuse archives are placing themselves at
>> considerable risk...
>> It's high time some of them took considerably more responsibility then
>> they do at present,
>> (such as indefinitely suspending archival of known abusers posts.)
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> No. Once archives such as Google's start evaluating posts in such a
> way before deciding whether to archive them, their defence against
> claims of copyright abuse will be unavailable.
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Author: Xavier RocheXavier Roche
Date: Dec 5, 2007 11:17
> Amongst the genuine posts, were a few postings that I would consider
> possible abuse.
You are not using a serious server (with proper filters and/or cleaning
policies), and thus you are seing spam that most prople do not see.
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Author: Russ AllberyRuss Allbery
Date: Dec 5, 2007 00:00
Last-modified: 2003-10-04 (revision 1.14)
Posted-by: postfaq 1.15 (Perl 5.8.8)
Archive-name: net-abuse-faq/newsgroups
URL: http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/nana-groups.html
Original-author: Fluffy usa.net>
Posting-frequency: weekly
We have a plentiful selection of newsgroups about network abuse and
related issues, but what is the best one to use? Here are excerpts from
the newsgroups' charters, with emphasis added to help make things clear.
Please refer to the full charters, URLs included here when available, if
you would like more detail.
If you want to learn more about network abuse -- what it is, what can be
done about it and just what all those acronyms mean -- Tim Skirvin has
pointers to more sources of information at:
<http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/nana/>
Thank you for following these recommendations. It will make these
newsgroups more useful for all involved.
Network Abuse Newsgroups:
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Date: Dec 3, 2007 23:31
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