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Author: John.G.John.G. Date: May 8, 2008 04:25
Steve Linford wrote in
news.supernews.com>:
> In article news.motzarella.org>,
> "John.G." wrote:
> >> Vernon Schryver wrote in calcite.rhyolite.com>:
>> >>> In article
>>>
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Date: May 8, 2008 04:49
> What I was saying is: Having gathered all the clues he would
> probably never have dreamt of acquiring otherwise, Carlos now has
> an almost perfect picture of the steps he can take next for the
> wellbeing of his spam operation.
>
Well, if he is smart, he will get the clue that what he has been doing is
abhorrent to most of the world's e-mail recipients, that he joins the
septic tank cleaner pill pushers in their minds, and he will stop spamming.
If he is like most spammers, he will continue to imagine that what he does
is NOT spamming because it is him doing it, and all the clues in the world
will not educate him by one iota.
If I were a betting man, I would NOT put much money on #1, no matter WHAT
odds you offered.
--
bz
please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.
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Date: May 8, 2008 06:17
Steve Linford wrote:
> In article hamsterserver.local.127.0.0.1>,
> SneakyP invalidsneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> Steve Linford spamhaus.org> wrote in news:linford-
>> 33EA47.07132908052008@news.supernews.com:
>>>>> In article news.motzarella.org>,
>>> "John.G." wrote:
>>>>>>> Precisely what I was thinking. Given the wealth of information
>>>> handed over to him, it may now be easier for the spammer to evade
>>>> the public blocklists.
>> I'd gather the only info going back is that he knows you know.
>>
>> Wow, what a revelation. That was so smurt. I never figured blocklisting ...
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Author: shiksaashiksaa Date: May 8, 2008 06:29
On Thu, 08 May 2008 08:17:03 -0500, "WindsorFox "
gmail.com> wrote:
>> Indeed. Naturally he knows we know, since the address Carlos Spiegel
>> uses to send silly cartoonies to Spamhaus is... isrolandsp@ gmail.com
>>
>> (but I wouldn't want to interrupt Vernon's mountain-building while
>> he's on a roll ;)
>> >
> I'd think that a lawyer would be sending that mail from an address
>that is recognizably a law firm.
One of Rizler's lawyers had a hotmail addy: spiveythelawer@.
Part of one of his emails said:
>>absolutely no affiliation with Chris Smith, Robert Johnson or any other
>>individual you indicate in your posting. Absolutely no person indicated
>>on your ROKSO list has any relationship with this company, and your
>>erroneous posting has caused a great deal of concern and difficulty for
>>the company.
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Author: Rev Egg PlantRev Egg Plant Date: May 8, 2008 06:52
Steve Linford wrote:
> In article hamsterserver.local.127.0.0.1>,
> SneakyP invalidsneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> Steve Linford spamhaus.org> wrote in news:linford-
>> 33EA47.07132908052008@news.supernews.com:
>>>>> In article news.motzarella.org>,
>>> "John.G." wrote:
>>>>>>> Precisely what I was thinking. Given the wealth of information
>>>> handed over to him, it may now be easier for the spammer to evade
>>>> the public blocklists.
>> I'd gather the only info going back is that he knows you know.
>>
>> Wow, what a revelation. That was so smurt. I never figured blocklisting ...
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Author: Vernon SchryverVernon Schryver Date: May 8, 2008 07:42
In article news.supernews.com>,
Steve Linford spamhaus.org> wrote:
>Indeed. Naturally he knows we know, since the address Carlos Spiegel
>uses to send silly cartoonies to Spamhaus is... isrolandsp@ gmail.com
That is an at best intellectually dishonest "gotcha", because Steve
Linford clearly implied that the connection between isrolandsp@ gmail.com
and Carlos Spiegel was in SBL60499.
>(but I wouldn't want to interrupt Vernon's mountain-building while
>he's on a roll ;)
I think that's a demand that I not interrupt the old familiar, jejune
NANAE coup counting parties.
Vernon Schryver vjs@ rhyolite.com
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Author: Laurence SheldonLaurence Sheldon Date: May 8, 2008 07:49
Steve Linford wrote:
> Did either of you bother to look at the perp's SBL record?:
Is today Silly Question Day on Great Britain?
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Author: Laurence SheldonLaurence Sheldon Date: May 8, 2008 07:52
SneakyP wrote:
> See - digging for info can go both ways and the spammer is definitely not
> getting anything for this fishing expedition. Think "Linhardt principle"
It never occurred to me that it was possible (think "matte vs
antimatter") to use the words "Linhardt" and "principle" in the same
sentence.
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Date: May 8, 2008 08:10
"John.G." writes:
>Carlos now has all the information he needed at his fingertips
>thanks to the replies to his phishing expedition, which he
>clearly admitted he couldn't obtain it from Spamhaus.
What the hell are you talking about? *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
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Date: May 8, 2008 08:15
"John.G." writes:
>Precisely what I was thinking. Given the wealth of information
>handed over to him, it may now be easier for the spammer to evade
>the public blocklists.
Just what makes you think that Steve identified Carlos by anything other
than the ample clues he put in the post?
- from Brazil
- claims to be a lawyer
- says he wrote a book
- is actively being blocked
- rants in an odd and ideosyncratic matter about Switzerland
- recycles Linhardt's garbage
- makes cartoonies
He used his brain and knowledge of the nutbars that write Spamhaus. I
wouldn't be surprised if he knew who it was without even looking first. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
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