Hmmm... I have had five spams from this IP range today, for various
things like this:

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From here:

134.17.100.104 = [ ]

(Asked whois.arin.net:43 about +134.17.100.104)

On Wed, 7 May 2008 05:53:31 -0700 (PDT), Wombat yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

Snotty has control of the range, block and forget it.
Cary

In article
<65b5bfcf-6a5c-4d64-8caf-b8d245599d42@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Wombat yahoo.com.au> wrote:

What's so strange about that post?

fudo wrote:

Yeah, I thought the same. Ron G is usually pretty clear what he's
posting about. In this case, the range that goes by "SF Bay Packet
Radio" at present belongs to a certain Westminster, Colorado-based bulk
emailer who was at one time not only on the SpamHaus ROKSO list, but #2
on the list. I don't know if Richter and/or partners tried to hide his
involvement or not, but I'm very suspicious.

Cary wrote:

But I'm confused (stuff the comments!), is this regularish spam or
did it arrive by way of a packet radio interface???

On Wed, 07 May 2008 13:54:36 -0500, "WindsorFox"
gmail.com> wrote:

Did Wombat's original post not make it in your server?
The one IP source mentioned 134.17.100.104

Cary wrote:

"Cary" wrote in message
news:ptv324tgo8pkpu8j2m1jn13cq67hd2k04h@4ax.com...

Clearly fake, as amateur packet radio is assigned 44/8 and uses the domain
"ampr.org."

On Wed, 07 May 2008 18:08:56 -0500, "WindsorFox"
gmail.com> wrote:

Now there's the thousand dollar question. Did he just take them when
the network went defunct? Faking ownership and now it appears he's the
legit owner of the legacy range? Or did he buy the legacy range and
actually has a legit claim to it? There really is nothing preventing
selling legacy ranges like the control that can be brought by the
regional authorities on ranges under their control.

The topic came up here earlier. Although it didn't catch much comment
in the group.
KpCdnaElWojZJYvVnZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@surewest
--
Cary

In article snarked.org>,
D. Stussy newsgroups.kd6lvw.ampr.org> wrote:

It's true that AMPR packet radio is assigned one big Class A network
number (and has been for years).

It would not surprise me if an entirely different group of hams
applied for, and were assigned a /16 at some point. Management of the
44/8 network has been rather a hit-or-miss matter for a long time, and
it's possible that some group of SF Bay hams decided to request an
independent block (perhaps with an eye towards making it globally
routable).

In any case, it does appear that some unauthorized party has managed
to hijack this /16 away from whomever was properly responsible for it
(if, that is, there was anyone still minding the store for it in the
first place... the original requestors may have gone AWOL).