>Look at OJ Simpson, oops, right USA law is seriously off kilter isn't
>it.

>Not Guilty in Criminal court, but yes, OJ probably did kill them and
>has to pay for it in civil court.

> Angel wrote:

>>
>> I've seen spammers self-destruct in NANAE before, but never in as
>> spectacular a way as David Linhardt. The more he denies being a spammer,
>> the more proof surfaces that he is connected to several spam outfits.

>
> Indeed, there have been many "Wile E. Coyote" moments... and he appears
> to still need gravity lessons!

>
> Steven J. Sobol wrote:

>> In article , NFN Smith wrote:
>>

>>> Having said that... a couple of months back, I had something that I
>>> needed to interact with Charter admins on, and the route that I went was
>>> to cc: all the addresses mentioned as contact points on the DNS
>>> registration, including a contact at SAVVIS (who apparently owns
>>> Charter).

>>
>> Savvis may be one of their upstreams (although I never see traces from
>> my cablemodem at home going through them), but this is the first I've
>> heard of Savvis owning them. They were in bankruptcy and I've heard
>> rumors of them being bought out by NewsCorp (Rupert Murdoch's
>> company). They were founded (in part) by Microsoft co-founder Paul
>> Allen. But I have never heard of Savvis owning any part of the company.
>>
>>

> ...

>Right now you're in the lying stage, waiting for a tip.

> e360Insight wrote:
>

>> The US court IS the proper venue. We are moving to have the judgment
>> entered into the UK once the appeal is over.
>>
>> I don't think Spamhaus is running out of fear. The simple fact is
>> that they cannot justify their actions because they were at fault in
>> this matter. It's just that simple.

>
> Explain again how the US courts have jurisdiction over UK businesses or
> citizens?

>Scott Dorsey wrote:

>> Eddie Rickenbacker break-left.org> wrote:

>>>
>>>Well, the year and the S/N ratio was just pulled randomly from the air, so
>>>you may be right. I don't know. In 1998, we started looking up senders in
>>>(If my memory serves me) ORBS, only to find that we had to answer a LOT of
>>>angry phone calls. Most mail admins didn't have a clue and wrongfully
>>>thought we were blocking their mail out of malice (which is debatable
>>>anyway since we used ORBS).

>>
>> Most people seem to date the beginning of the Eternal September to 1996.

>
>I thought the general consensus was 1993 when AOL got Usenet access.

>On the other side of the coin, internet access not being limited to
>educational facilities, government (including military), and large
>corporations has allowed people who otherwise would have been left in
>isolated little corners of the globe (like, yes, me; I started out
>the whole "online thing" in late 1994, on AOL) to ideally (in a
>decidedly non-ideal world, admittedly) become more aware of the world
>outside their own limited sphere, without having to spend gobs of
>money to travel around the planet.

>After a while they told me to stop using TSO and start using Office
>Vision,