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Group: news.admin.netabuse.blocklisting · Group Profile
Author: 1urk3r
Date: Aug 25, 2007 15:04

On Aug 24, 8:58 am, use-reply-to-mail...@remove-this.com (Claus v.
Wolfhausen) wrote:
> In article <1187930834.786891.186...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> adambro...@gmail.com says...
>
>>there's no question about "legit" - it isn't.
>>if you're having deliverability issues, you can
>>remove "apews" from your list of possible suspects.
>
> Agreed.
>
>>golden.net is certainly not on the standard list of "bad"
>>networks. leaving aside "apews" as just foolishness,
>>only uceprotect lists golden.net "in bulk," and
>>uceprotect's penetration is only slightly greater than
>>that of "apews." if you're really seeing lots of
>>rejections, neither "apews" nor uceprotect are
>>the cause.
>
> Adam,
>
> UCEPROTECT is NOT APEWS, NOR is it related.
>
> UCEPROTECT has a very low false positive rate.
> Didn't you tell AL IVERSON would be a friend of you?
> Just ask him about UCEPROTECT FP-Rate, if you do not trust me.
>
> Probably you should google for uceprotect to get a clue of
> how many systems and which one's are using UCEPROTECT.
>
> If you need to send mail to locations in
> Germany, Austria or Switzerland, you can expect massive
> problems, if listed in UCEPROTECT.
> UCEPROTECT is haevy used there.
>
> In Austria UCEPROTECT is even more often used than SPAMHAUS.
> 3 big Austrian providers and countless companies are using UCEPROTECT.
>
> We also know some big providers in Belgium and Netherlands
> are using UCEPROTECT too.
>
> Even if you send mail to locations in UK or USA you will
> have some problems if listed in UCEPROTECT,
> but not so massive than in the German speaking parts of Europe.
>
> In Australia, you will have also massive problems,
> because DNSBL.NET.AU imports UCEPROTECT-Level1,
> and DNSBL.NET.AU is haevy used in Australia.
>
> Last not least:
> If you need to send mail to some of the big freemailers,
> (no i do not tell you which one) you can expect your mail
> to end up in the spam folder if listed in UCEPROTECT.
>

hi claus-

i spend a good deal of time in europe, and
as it happens, two of the mailservers i
routinely use to correspond with friends &
business contacts in .ch (and to a lesser
extent, in .de) are on ip's listed in uceprotect,
but i have yet to see a single rejection. that's
anecdotal, of course, but i can only go by
what i see - and by what i read in the
international channels i monitor.

i do see that uceprotect's policies have
certainly improved under the new management,
though, so don't assume anything negative
in what i say - and of course i do concur with
Al in applauding your decision about that
other zone.

i think it's not wise to make assumptions about
whether any big free webmail services are
consulting any dnsbl, though. remember, they
see abuse from the same sources as list
maintainers, so there's liable to be a degree
of contiguousness in what addresses they
choose to list. rather than interpreting that
contiguousness as evidence of their use
of one zone or another, i prefer simply to
be glad they're protecting their users.

that's really all that matters, don't you think?

adam

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