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Author: EricOF
Date: Mar 12, 2008 16:12

On Mar 10, 4:54 pm, Knowledge charter.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:19:25 -0700 (PDT), Ted hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 10, 8:41 am, News without the Jews
>>googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>> The racial murder and rape of White women in America
>
>>> How the so-called "Civil Rights" Movement in America has led to loss
>>> of the most important civil right of all: life.
>
>>> The almost simultaneous murders of White co-eds at two different,
>>> prominent universities, Auburn and University of North Carolina,
>>> should bring attention to an epidemic of brutal African-American
>>> crimes against White women in the United States.
>
>>> The murder of Eve Carson, Student Body President of UNC has shocked
>>> her campus and its surrounding community to its core. Ms. Carson was
>>> found murdered in the middle of an intersection just outside downtown
>>> Chapel Hill on Wednesday, March 5th. Her body ... which had two gunshot
>>> wounds, including one to the head, laid just a mile away from her SUV,
>>> which was left abandoned. Bank ATM video revealed that the murderer-
>>> carjacker, an African American, apparently attempted to get cash from
>>> Carson's stolen ATM card shortly after the crime.
>
>>> In a similar recent incident, police arrested another African American
>>> attacker, Courtney L. Lockhart, 23, for the grisly murder and
>>> attempted rape of Auburn University freshman co-ed, Lauren Burk, on
>>> March 4. Courtney was arrested on March 7 after having brutally pistol-
>>> whipped the face of another White victim, 72-year-old Marjorie
>>> Llewellyn of Newnan, Alabama and briefly kidnapping her at gunpoint
>>> during an armed robbery and attempted carjacking earlier in the day.
>
> Snipped much bovine scatology
>
>
> No thanks. Using Davide Duke, a former grand wizard of trhe KKK as
> your reference makes it all go up in smoke, and so do you.
>
> Use credible sources, or be quiet!
>
> Having said the above, considering the unrelenting hatred African
> Americans of ALL social statuses's face every day, all across
> Amerikkka, from Caucasians, both male and female, I'm really
> surprised that you all aren't helped to assume room temperature about
> a thousand times more often than what the true figures reflect.
>
> The Color of Deception
>
> March 10. 2008
>
> By PhD. Tim Wise
>
> http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/2004-10/19wise.cfm
>
> "A lie can travel half-way around the world while the truth is still
> pulling on its boots."
>
> Although this truism was penned long before the Internet, there is
> little doubt but that in the modern era, it has become more prescient
> than its author could ever have imagined.
>
> When it comes to fast-moving lies, few can top one that has been
> distributed by white supremacists for the past several years. It is
> probably the most popular piece of racist propaganda in existence
> today, and because it relies on official government data, it comes
> across as sober, intelligent social science, rather than as the
> compendium of nonsense it happens to be.
>
> The screed to which I refer is "The Color of Crime: Race, Crime and
> Violence in America," by white nationalist, Jared Taylor. Taylor is
> the publisher of the racist magazine, American Renaissance, and host
> of an annual conference, which attracts open neo-Nazis as well as a
> gaggle of academicians who proclaim black genetic inferiority.
>
> According to Taylor, there are several "facts" about crime that have
> been hidden from view by the civil rights community. Among them:
>
> --Blacks are much more dangerous than whites as evidenced by higher
> crime rates;
>
> --Black criminals usually choose white victims and are far more likely
> to victimize whites than whites are to victimize blacks (both for
> regular violent crimes and hate crimes);
>
> --Black crime rates justify racial profiling, since it only makes
> sense to focus law enforcement attention on those who commit a
> disproportionate share of crime; and finally,
>
> --The interracial crime data makes white fear of African Americans
> perfectly rational.
>
> But a close examination of these arguments proves that Taylor and his
> followers are either statistically illiterate, or knowingly deceive
> for political effect.
>
> First, as for the disproportionate rate of violent crime committed by
> blacks, economic conditions explain the difference with white crime
> rates.
>
> According to several studies, when community and personal economic
> status is comparable between whites and blacks, there are no
> significant racial crime differences (1). In other words, the implicit
> message of Taylor's report--that blacks are dangerous because they are
> black--is insupportable.
>
> Secondly, to claim that blacks are more dangerous than whites because
> of official crime rates, is to ignore that when it comes to everyday
> threats to personal well-being, whites far and away lead the pack in
> all kinds of destructive behaviors: corporate pollution, consumer
> fraud, violations of health and safety standards on the job, and
> launching wars on the basis of deceptive evidence, to name a few. Each
> year, far more people die because of corporate malfeasance,
> occupational health violations and pollution than all the street crime
> combined, let alone street crime committed by African Americans (2).
>
> [Stoking Fears About Interracial Crime - A Look at How Nazis Do Math]
>
> Next, Taylor claims that most victims of black violent crime are
> white, and thus, that blacks are violently targeting whites.
> Furthermore, since only a small share of the victims of white
> criminals are black (only 4.4 percent in 2002, for example), this
> means that blacks are far more of a threat to whites than vice-versa.
>
> But there are several problems with these claims.
>
> To begin with, the white victim totals in the Justice Department's
> victimization data include those termed Hispanic by the Census, since
> nine in ten Latino/as are considered racially white by government
> record-keepers. Since Latino/as tend to live closer to blacks than
> non-Hispanic whites, this means that many "white" victims of "black
> crime" are Latino/a, and that in any given year, the majority of black
> crime victims would be people of color, not whites.
>
> But even if we compute the white totals as Taylor does, without
> breaking out Hispanic victims of "black crime," his position is
> without merit.
>
> In 2002, whites, including Latinos, were about 81.5 percent of the
> population (3). That same year, whites (including Latinos) were 51
> percent of the victims of violent crimes committed by blacks, meaning
> that whites were victimized by blacks less often than would have been
> expected by random chance, given the extent to which whites were
> available to be victimized (4).
>
> As for the claim that blacks victimize whites at rates that are far
> higher than the reverse, though true, this statistic is meaningless,
> for a few obvious but overlooked reasons, first among them the simple
> truth that if whites are more available as potential victims, we would
> naturally expect black criminals to victimize whites more often than
> white criminals would victimize blacks.
>
> Examining data from 2002, there were indeed 4.5 times more
> black-on-white violent crimes than the reverse (5). While this may
> seem to support Taylor's position, it actually destroys it, because
> the interracial crime gap, though seemingly large, is smaller than
> random chance would have predicted.
>
> The critical factor ignored by Taylor is the extent to which whites
> and blacks encounter each other in the first place. Because of ongoing
> racial isolation and de facto segregation, the two group's members do
> not encounter one another at rates commensurate with their shares of
> the population: a fact that literally torpedoes the claims in The
> Color of Crime.
>
> As sociologist Robert O'Brian has noted (using Census data), the odds
> of a given white person (or white criminal) encountering a black
> person are only about three percent. On the other hand, the odds of a
> given black person (or black criminal) encountering a white person are
> nineteen times greater, or fifty-seven percent (6), meaning the actual
> interracial victimization gap between black-on-white and
> white-on-black crime is smaller than one would expect.
>
> In 2002, blacks committed a little more than 1.2 million violent
> crimes, while whites committed a little more than three million
> violent crimes (7). If each black criminal had a 57 percent chance of
> encountering (and thus potentially victimizing) a white person, this
> means that over the course of 2002, blacks should have been expected
> to victimize roughly 690,000 whites. But in truth, blacks victimized
> whites only 614,176 times that year (8).
>
> Conversely, if each white criminal had only a three percent chance of
> encountering and thus victimizing a black person, this means that over
> the course of 2002, whites would have been expected to victimize
> roughly 93,000 blacks. But in truth, whites victimized blacks 135,931
> times: almost 50 percent more often than would be expected by random
> chance (9).

That's an awful lot of emphasis placed on a single estimation that
hasn't been replicated by other research and happens to be about 15
years older than the crime statistics he's using. Also, what is an
"encounter?" Is it being alone with someone in an alley or is it
sitting within 10 seats of someone on a crowded bus? One presents a
greater opportunity for crime than another yet Wise doesn't bother to
tell us what it means or how such distinctions might alter the
numbers. But more than that, Wise presents the same type of
statistical legerdemain he attempts to refute. By comparing the
percentage of total crime directed towards those of another race, he
essentially masks the effect of being more prone to crime to begin
with, something that is sure to have an effect on the likelihood that
a member of one group will commit crime directed at any particular
other group.

It's easy to illustrate how misleading this is. Let's suppose that
whites are such a peaceful race that we look into the FBI's Uniform
Crime Report and the Justice Department's National Criminal
Victimization survey and they both produce an astonishing fact: for
year 2002 whites in the U.S. committed only 100 violent crimes. That
would be rather astonishing. Impossible of course but let's consider
it for a minute. It might seem absurd on it's face to suggest that a
race with such low rates of crime could be suggested to be as likely
or more likely to commit a criminal act against a black person than
the reverse, assuming that the numbers regarding black criminality
remain the same as those offered by the actual 2002 numbers above. But
not necessarily! Not if we use the Tim Wise method of statistical
analysis at any rate. Suppose for example that we find that 50 of
these 100 crimes had a black victim. My goodness! Whites encounter
blacks at a rate of only 3%% of total encounters and yet a full 50%% of
all of their victims are black. That is far more likely than would be
expected given random chance! We would expect only 3 but it's roughly
17 times that. We are therefore forced to conclude that a race
comprised about 70%% of the population and that commits a grand total
of 50 crimes against blacks is actually NOT less likely to target
blacks than the reverse, despite the fact that blacks are 13%% of the
population and committed a grand total of 614,176 crimes against
whites.

Furthermore, given "relative crime rates as well as rates of
interracial encounter" we expected that the ratio of black on white to
white on black crime to be about 230,000: 1 (690,000 and 3) but in
actually the ratio was was about 12,284:1 (614,176 and 50). Black on
white crime didn't outstrip white on black crime nearly as much as we
thought and as much as "random chance" would suggest given differing
relative rates of crime, the difference being on the order of 18. In
such a world, we would have to instruct whites that they shouldn't
feel appreciably more trepidation when encountering a random black as
blacks do when encountering a random white. Tim Wise tells us so.

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