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Random reflection on Obesity         


Author: jakdedert
Date: Aug 29, 2007 07:15

I've noted the reports--borne out by personal observation--of the
growing obesity trend here in this country. Compounding the concern, of
course, is the dubious revelation that our own state has slipped to
number five on the list. Roughly one in four of our citizens is not
just overweight, but obese.

It seems to me that a proper function of our public educational systems
would be to reemphasize programs of physical fitness. Having just
graduated a child from the K-4 level, and having one about to graduate
high school, I'm struck (again) by the almost utter lack of such in the
higher grades. The youngster got a fairly healthy dose of various
programs of physical conditioning, along with a generally higher level
of physical activity inherent in her day to day school experience.

The high schooler gets ONE semester of twice a week physical 'education'
classes a year...if that. The curriculum does not require any real
conditioning; mostly amounting to just 'exposure' to such.
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Re: Random reflection on Obesity         


Author: InfoSuperHwyRoadKill
Date: Aug 29, 2007 07:20

"jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:e9fBi.39298$t9.35046@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
> I've noted the reports--borne out by personal observation--of the growing
> obesity trend here in this country. Compounding the concern, of course,
> is the dubious revelation that our own state has slipped to number five on
> the list. Roughly one in four of our citizens is not just overweight, but
> obese.
>
> It seems to me that a proper function of our public educational systems
> would be to reemphasize programs of physical fitness. Having just
> graduated a child from the K-4 level, and having one about to graduate
> high school, I'm struck (again) by the almost utter lack of such in the
> higher grades. The youngster got a fairly healthy dose of various
> programs of physical conditioning, along with a generally higher level of
> physical activity inherent in her day to day school experience.
>
> The high schooler gets ONE semester of twice a week physical 'education'
> classes a year...if that. The curriculum does not require any real
> conditioning; mostly amounting to just 'exposure' to such.
> ...
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Re: Random reflection on Obesity         


Author: Boston Blackie (PA Robert Black, or is it the other way 'round?)
Date: Aug 29, 2007 09:08

On 2007-08-29 09:15:49 -0500, jakdedert bellsouth.net> said:
> I've noted the reports--borne out by personal observation--of the
> growing obesity trend here in this country. Compounding the concern,
> of course, is the dubious revelation that our own state has...
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Re: Random reflection on Obesity         


Author: jakdedert
Date: Aug 29, 2007 09:15

InfoSuperHwyRoadKill wrote:
>> I'd be a lot more supportive the MNPS if my kids also were required to
>> exercise regularly. I believe that a higher level of physical fitness
>> would result in a corresponding higher level of mental fitness and
>> increased self esteem.
>>
>> Just my $.02.....
>>
>> jak
>>
>
> . . . Most would rather watch paint dry . . . we almost have a nickel.
>
Granted, most kids would rather sit, although mine are (hopefully will
remain) exceptions. The point is that we require many things of kids in
the course of their educational experience, many which I believe to be
of dubious value.
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Re: Random reflection on Obesity         


Author: Paul Stevens
Date: Aug 29, 2007 15:36

jakdedert wrote:
> I've noted the reports--borne out by personal observation--of the
> growing obesity trend here in this country. Compounding the concern, of
> course, is the dubious revelation that our own state has slipped to
> number five on the list. Roughly one in four of our citizens is not
> just overweight, but obese.
>
> It seems to me that a proper function of our public educational systems
> would be to reemphasize programs of physical fitness. Having just
> graduated a child from the K-4 level, and having one about to graduate
> high school, I'm struck (again) by the almost utter lack of such in the
> higher grades. The youngster got a fairly healthy dose of various
> programs of physical conditioning, along with a generally higher level
> of physical activity inherent in her day to day school experience.
>
> The high schooler gets ONE semester of twice a week physical 'education'
> classes a year...if that. The curriculum does not require any real
> conditioning; mostly amounting to just 'exposure' to such.
>
> My own experience, 40 years on, was that we were *required* to ...
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Re: Random reflection on Obesity         


Author: Olin
Date: Aug 29, 2007 18:22

"Boston Blackie (PA Robert Black, or is it the other way 'round?)"
mail.com> wrote in message
news:2007082911084175249-bblackie@mailcom...
> On 2007-08-29 09:15:49 -0500, jakdedert bellsouth.net> said:
>
>> I've noted the reports--borne out by personal observation--of the growing
>> obesity trend here in this country. Compounding the concern, of course,
>> is the dubious revelation that our own state has slipped to number five
>> on the list. Roughly one in four of our citizens is not just overweight,
>> but obese.
>>
>> It seems to me that a proper function of our public educational systems
>> would be to reemphasize programs of physical fitness. Having just
>> graduated a child from the K-4 level, and having one about to graduate
>> high school, I'm struck (again) by the almost utter lack of such in the
>> higher grades. The youngster got a fairly healthy dose of various
>> programs of physical conditioning, along with a generally higher level of
>> physical activity inherent in her day to day school experience.
>>
>> The high schooler gets ONE semester of twice a week physical 'education' ...
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Re: Random reflection on Obesity         


Author: Richard Thomas
Date: Aug 29, 2007 19:15

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:15:49 -0500, jakdedert
bellsouth.net> wrote:
>My own experience, 40 years on, was that we were *required* to
>participate in real physical conditioning three times a week, from 7th
>grade on. Even those programs wouldn't fit any modern scientific
>definition of 'conditioning'; but were a damn sight better than what my
>own kids are receiving.

My own experience is that enforced physical education just made me
rejoice the day I never had to do any of that awful crap again.

Over the intervening years, off my own bat, I have found that many of
those activities can actually be quite enjoyable. Particularly when
partaken of under circumstances of my own choosing.

What is needed is a less ingrained affinity for convenience food and a
relaxation of the over-protectionism that leads to an expectation of
every destination requiring transportation by car.
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Re: Random reflection on Obesity         


Author: KD
Date: Aug 30, 2007 10:00

On Aug 29, 8:22 pm, "Olin" comcast.net> wrote:
> Funny that. How DID our parents and grandparents live into their 70s, 80s
> and sometimes 90s, while eating whatever they damned well pleased?

Most of them didn't. The life expectancy when our grandparents were
born was much lower and infant mortality was much higher than it is
now.

I never knew my paternal grandmother - she died from cancer well
before her 70s and many years before I was born.

I never knew my maternal grandfather - he died when my mother was 11
(1937 - 15 years before I was born) of appendicitis.

My maternal grandmother did make it to age 70, but only barely, when
she expired from cancer. She was the eldest, but had already lost two
siblings who were (do the math) presumably much younger than 70 when
they died.

My paternal grandfather lost a brother at a very young age- probably
to the flu. Naturally, he never got to be a parent, much less a
grandparent.

My mother-in-law lost a brother to pneumonia before he was in
kindergarten.
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Re: Random reflection on Obesity         


Author: Olin
Date: Aug 30, 2007 15:35

"KD" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188493229.698949.98170@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 29, 8:22 pm, "Olin" comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Funny that. How DID our parents and grandparents live into their 70s, 80s
>> and sometimes 90s, while eating whatever they damned well pleased?
>
> Most of them didn't. The life expectancy when our grandparents were
> born was much lower and infant mortality was much higher than it is
> now.
>

Different ages for different parents. My grandparents lived well into their
80s, as did my mother. My wife's still active father is well into his 80s,
and his father almost made 100.

And where I grew up, that was more the norm than the exception. Nothing
really all that special about the gene pool either... just hard-working
folks who lived long lives.
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Re: Random reflection on Obesity         


Author: maxo
Date: Aug 30, 2007 18:23

On Aug 29, 9:15 pm, Richard Thomas dicksonlife.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:15:49 -0500, jakdedert
>
> bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>My own experience, 40 years on, was that we were *required* to
>>participate in real physical conditioning three times a week, from 7th
>>grade on. Even those programs wouldn't fit any modern scientific
>>definition of 'conditioning'; but were a damn sight better than what my
>>own kids are receiving.
>
> My own experience is that enforced physical education just made me
> rejoice the day I never had to do any of that awful crap again.
>
> Over the intervening years, off my own bat, I have found that many of
> those activities can actually be quite enjoyable. Particularly when
> partaken of under circumstances of my own choosing.
>
> What is needed is a less ingrained affinity for convenience food and a
> relaxation of the over-protectionism that leads to an expectation of
> every destination requiring transportation by car. ...
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