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Group: nashville.general · Group Profile
Author: David MoffittDavid Moffitt Date: May 14, 2008 16:34
"InfoSuperHwyRoadKill" hellsgate.com> wrote in message
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| "Cyrus Afzali" wrote in message
| news:btim24t2nqfl6s2htekm57jd951h4d5edp@4ax.com...
| > On Tue, 13 May 2008 23:42:02 -0500, "David Moffitt"
| > weaselstomping.org> wrote:
| >
| >>
| >>"Cyrus Afzali" wrote in message
| >>news:3hkk24dbmkp41262f6fr91or52fsbl6gvm@4ax.com...
| >
| >>| You COMPLETELY dodged the issue regarding how using a Hitler reference
| >>| discredits your opinion, however. I can call GWB a former boozer and
| >>| drug snorter and come a whole hell of a lot closer to the truth than
| >>| likening Hillary to Hitler.
| >>
| >> Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
| >
| > Right, but one's at least based in part on fact and one is not.
| > Hillary has not committed atrocities in the vein of what Hitler did;
| > Bush is a recovering alcoholic and is widely thought to have had a
| > cocaine problem that was swept under the rug thanks to family
| > connections. So my statement has more legs than yours.
| >>|
| >>| >
| >>| >but you're beloved Bush kept promising to smoke him
| >>| >| out. Now, we're all the sudden supposed to forget about him and
care
| >>| >| about liberating Iraq? I wasn't breathing shit on 9/11 caused by
| >>Iraq,
| >>| >| but rather Osama; so I and many people in the world have a
different
| >>| >| world view than Bushie.
| >>| >
| >>| >The military is still looking for him and never stopped.
| >>|
| >>| Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. The military never really launched a
| >>| massive effort to look for him,
| >>
| >> Really? What were we doing in Afganistan and in Tora Bora?
| >
| > Failing to catch Bin Laden, apparently. Face it, if you have thousands
| > of people and you still can't find somebody, it's a failure, plain and
| > simple. Either the strategy's bad or the execution is bad. I know this
| > bunch doesn't like to admit failure, but sometimes a failure can't be
| > classified under any other name.
| >>
| >>
| >>otherwise it wouldn't have outsourced
| >>| his capture to the Pakistanis.
| >>
| >> Only in Paskistan. We cannot deploy troops into Pakistan.
| >
| > Which is where he's been widely known to be for ages. Instead of
| > coddling Musharraf and giving him aid, how about showing some guts? We
| > pussyfoot around that guy so much it's a joke. If a Democrat president
| > did that, Republicans would say they were coddling a terrorist.
| >>
| >>Bush had a jihad on his mind and was
| >>| co-opted by the Cheneys of the world to carry out their mission under
| >>| the guise of a "war on terra" that has of yet solved nothing.
| >>
| >> How many "terra" attack have we had since 9/11? How many did Clinton
have
| >>during his administration?
| >
| > The fact that we haven't had any proves nothing. We had the worst ever
| > attack on U.S. soil under Bush, so I think he's cemented a legacy
| > there. The only attack on U.S. soil under Clinton was OKC and the
| > first World Trade Center. Both the perpetrators in those attacks were
| > captured, tried and brought to justice. Can't say that much about that
| > rascally Osama.
| >>
| >>One
| >>| hopes Bush never realizes how he's been duped by people much smarter
| >>| than he, albeit much more manical; if he does, he'll realize how he's
| >>| got no real legacy at all.
| >>
| >> So you think all that matters to a President is his legacy?
| >
| > Absolutely. Why the hell do you think they take a $400K a year job
| > that would earn a lot more in an equivalent position in the private
| > sector? It's all about ego; this notion that a politician has service
| > on the mind is nuts in the modern world.
| >>
| >> Rather, he spent 8 years managing a legacy
| >>| for people like Cheney and Rove who never stood much of a chance of
| >>| being a success on their own.
| >>
| >> Both are richer than the Clintons.
| >
| > Not Rove; no way, no how. Cheney, I'll give you, but not Rove. The
| > guy's had no success outside of politics and his book is not selling
| > anywhere near as well as either Hillary's or either Clinton's. You
| > simply won't be able to prove that one to me.
| >>
| >>| >
| >>| >|
| >>| >| See, I don't care whether there's 1 Christian or 100 million, even
| >>| >| though I'm a card carrying Catholic;
| >>| >
| >>| >What is your position on abortion and homosexuality and homosexual
| >>marriage?
| >>| >I know what the local priest has to say about it.
| >>|
| >>| My position doesn't matter because I don't believe the government
| >>| should get involved in those. If a gay wants to marry, so be it, as
| >>| marriages are a civil law contract anyway. As far as what the local
| >>| priest says, the Catholic Church has lost all credibility in terms of
| >>| giving guidance on issues until it cleans its own house. When they've
| >>| rid the house of problems, they can worry about me.
| >>
| >>
| >> I see you are Catholic only when it is convient.
| >
| > I see you're more worried about judging than living your own life.
| > What's that line about casting stones again? What a hypocrit; go
| > start your own country and establish your own religion if it suits
| > you, but my practices are none of your damn business. See, I'm
| > intelligent enough to make those choices for myself; I don't need a
| > nanny state doing them for me and I don't need fear mongering to do it
| > for me either.
| >>
| >>| > I'm not in the business of
| >>| >| telling others what they should believe, but if you're willing to
pay
| >>| >| for a state-sponsored jihad to convert Iraqis to Christians, then
pay
| >>| >| my share too.
| >>| >
| >>| >I don't care what religion they are.
| >>|
| >>| You might not, but converting them to Christians is the only reason
| >>| GWB wants them there. He believes he's a modern day prophet for Jesus.
| >>
| >> Cite?
| >
| > The NY Times magazine did an enormous piece on it about 18 months ago.
| >>
| >>Remember.. Some people are a lot like slinkies.... They are not really
| >>good
| >>for anything, but.. they still bring a smile to your face when you push
| >>them
| >>down a flight of stairs. ":o)
| >
| > I suppose that statement isn't good for much except proving you're a
| > condescending asshole. If that was supposed to be some veiled
| > statement directed at me, be a man and say that. But this stupid,
| > dumbass attempt at humor just doesn't suit you.
|
| . . . That was reminiscent of the rhetorical ass whoopin' Olin would have
to
| give Kent periodically.
Out pops the little red hatted monkey. My ass is untouched.
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