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Re: New Gun Poll         


Author: jakdedert
Date: Dec 6, 2007 07:57

Kent Finnell wrote:
> "Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message news:pan.2007.12.06.06.40.24.912077@invalid.nospam...
>> On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:02:50 -0600, David Moffitt wrote:
>>
>> It's been hard not to notice we've had a number of incidents lately where
>> crooks have shot store clerks who were cooperating with the robbery, or
>> who hadn't yet had time to cooperate. (crook walks into store &
>> immediately shoots clerk, *then* steals something)
>>
>> One wonders whether this might be the predictable result of more and more
>> folks arming themselves --
>>
>> while we may have *hoped* that, by arming ourselves, we'd teach the crooks
>> "it's too dangerous to commit a robbery, you might get shot"..
>>
>> what we really taught them was "if you're going to commit a robbery, shoot
>> the victim first before they can shoot you"...
>
> So you're arguing that the crooks have the right to preemptive self defense? ...
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Re: New Gun Poll         


Author: Doug Smith W9WI
Date: Dec 6, 2007 08:56

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:57:08 -0600, jakdedert wrote:
>> So you're arguing that the crooks have the right to preemptive self defense?
>
> So just where in Doug's short post did you get that absurd notion?

(Kent, for some reason your posts are still going up in such a way that
they aren't visible to some newsreaders. I wouldn't have known what you
posted if Jak hadn't quoted it. I swear I don't have you killfiled!)
>> My point is that these young punks haven't developed the thought processes
>> that might lead to your theory.

I guess I don't see that my theory requires a whole lot of thought
process. I would suggest anyone who's able to figure out where to get a
gun and how to load/fire it could figure it out.
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Re: New Gun Poll         


Author: JCrowe
Date: Dec 6, 2007 09:03

jakdedert wrote:
> Kent Finnell wrote:
>> "Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
>> news:pan.2007.12.06.06.40.24.912077@invalid.nospam...
>>> It's been hard not to notice we've had a number of incidents lately
>>> where
>>> crooks have shot store clerks who were cooperating with the robbery, or
>>> who hadn't yet had time to cooperate. (crook walks into store &
>>> immediately shoots clerk, *then* steals something)
>>>
>>> One wonders whether this might be the predictable result of more and
>>> more
>>> folks arming themselves --
>>> while we may have *hoped* that, by arming ourselves, we'd teach the
>>> crooks
>>> "it's too dangerous to commit a robbery, you might get shot"..
>>>
>>> what we really taught them was "if you're going to commit a robbery,
>>> shoot
>>> the victim first before they can shoot you"... ...
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Re: New Gun Poll         


Author: Kent Finnell
Date: Dec 6, 2007 10:03

"jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:L_U5j.9769$k27.825@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> Kent Finnell wrote:
>> "Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message news:pan.2007.12.06.06.40.24.912077@invalid.nospam...
>>> On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:02:50 -0600, David Moffitt wrote:
>>>
>>> It's been hard not to notice we've had a number of incidents lately where
>>> crooks have shot store clerks who were cooperating with the robbery, or
>>> who hadn't yet had time to cooperate. (crook walks into store &
>>> immediately shoots clerk, *then* steals something)
>>>
>>> One wonders whether this might be the predictable result of more and more
>>> folks arming themselves --
>>>
>>> while we may have *hoped* that, by arming ourselves, we'd teach the crooks
>>> "it's too dangerous to commit a robbery, you might get shot"..
>>>
>>> what we really taught them was "if you're going to commit a robbery, shoot
>>> the victim first before they can shoot you"...
>> ...
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Re: New Gun Poll         


Author: Kent Finnell
Date: Dec 6, 2007 10:15

"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message news:pan.2007.12.06.16.56.12.468462@invalid.nospam...
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:57:08 -0600, jakdedert wrote:
>>> So you're arguing that the crooks have the right to preemptive self defense?
>>
>> So just where in Doug's short post did you get that absurd notion?
>
> (Kent, for some reason your posts are still going up in such a way that
> they aren't visible to some newsreaders. I wouldn't have known what you
> posted if Jak hadn't quoted it. I swear I don't have you killfiled!)

I hope someone quotes this back. Like I said before, I'm using out of the box
Windows Mail (nee Outlook Express). I really don't know of anything I can
do at this end of the pipe. If I change the encoding as someone suggested, my
posts set in the Outbox and never make it to the newsgroups.
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Re: New Gun Poll         


Author: Boston Blackie (You've got to be freakin' kidding me, HE'S the NRA?)
Date: Dec 6, 2007 11:51

On 2007-12-06 11:03:26 -0600, JCrowe hotrats.org> said:
> jakdedert wrote:
>> Kent Finnell wrote:
>>> "Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2007.12.06.06.40.24.912077@invalid.nospam...
>>>> It's been hard not to notice we've...
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Re: New Gun Poll         


Author: jakdedert
Date: Dec 6, 2007 12:01

JCrowe wrote:
> jakdedert wrote:
>> Kent Finnell wrote:
>>> "Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2007.12.06.06.40.24.912077@invalid.nospam...
>>>> It's been hard not to notice we've had a number of incidents lately
>>>> where
>>>> crooks have shot store clerks who were cooperating with the robbery, or
>>>> who hadn't yet had time to cooperate. (crook walks into store &
>>>> immediately shoots clerk, *then* steals something)
>>>>
>>>> One wonders whether this might be the predictable result of more and
>>>> more
>>>> folks arming themselves --
>>>> while we may have *hoped* that, by arming ourselves, we'd teach the
>>>> crooks
>>>> "it's too dangerous to commit a robbery, you might get shot"..
>>>>
>>>> what we really taught them was "if you're going to commit a robbery,
>>>> shoot ...
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Re: New Gun Poll         


Author: jakdedert
Date: Dec 6, 2007 12:19

Kent Finnell wrote:
> "jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:L_U5j.9769$k27.825@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>> Kent Finnell wrote:
>>> "Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message news:pan.2007.12.06.06.40.24.912077@invalid.nospam...
>>>> On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:02:50 -0600, David Moffitt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's been hard not to notice we've had a number of incidents lately where
>>>> crooks have shot store clerks who were cooperating with the robbery, or
>>>> who hadn't yet had time to cooperate. (crook walks into store &
>>>> immediately shoots clerk, *then* steals something)
>>>>
>>>> One wonders whether this might be the predictable result of more and more
>>>> folks arming themselves --
>>>>
>>>> while we may have *hoped* that, by arming ourselves, we'd teach the crooks
>>>> "it's too dangerous to commit a robbery, you might get shot"..
>>>>
>>>> what we really taught them was "if you're going to commit a robbery, shoot
>>>> the victim first before they can shoot you"... ...
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Re: New Gun Poll         


Author: Kent Finnell
Date: Dec 6, 2007 14:28

"jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:kNY5j.9865$k27.7261@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> Kent Finnell wrote:
>> "jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:L_U5j.9769$k27.825@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>> Kent Finnell wrote:
>>>> "Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message news:pan.2007.12.06.06.40.24.912077@invalid.nospam...
>>>>> On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:02:50 -0600, David Moffitt wrote:
>>>>>
>>
> I plopped down my money (as a teenager) and walked out with sticks of
> dynamite...but it took both my signature on a form, and my father's
> assurance (by phone) that he had need of it. Even at that, I believe
> they bent the rule based on familiarity.
>
>> The bad guys obtained more of their weapons then as they do now, they stole
>> them!
...
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Re: New Gun Poll         


Author: Vic
Date: Dec 6, 2007 16:14

Kent Finnell wrote:
> I hope someone quotes this back. Like I said before, I'm using out of the box
> Windows Mail (nee Outlook Express). I really don't know of anything I can
> do at this end of the pipe. If I change the encoding as someone suggested, my
> posts set in the Outbox and never make it to the newsgroups.
>

This may have been suggested already but have you considered using
Thunderbird for your mail/news client. I just checked and it is
compatible with Vista. I don't know what Windows Mail looks like but
Thunderbird can have similar appearance to Outlook Express. Thunderbird
also has some cool extensions/plugins available. Just a thought...

--
Max tBC
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