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Author: Paul Stevens
Date: Oct 3, 2007 17:17

In the spring of 2005, Davidson county began requiring
emissions testing of diesel cars and light trucks. At the
time, I thought it was one of the more idiotic changes in
government regulations, most likely based on complete
ignorance of engines and the differences in their emissions.

I renewed the plates on my VW diesel, less than a month before
the change, so I wasn't expecting to deal with the emisions
until spring 2006. As they say, 'stuff happens', and I went
through emissions testing earlier than expected, but in one
of those smelly gas burners. I had hoped to get the Jetta
diesel on the road in 2006, but (again, 'stuff happens') it's
still a few items away from being ready for the road.

Sunday night, I was looking through craigslist, when I came
across something that looked like a bargain that was too
good to pass up. Turned out to be definitely in the 'fixer
upper' category, but I thought it wouldn't take much to
bring it up to the 'old trusty work truck' level, so...
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Re: More government stupidity         


Author: Boston Blackie (novitiate at the Church of the Living Kent)
Date: Oct 3, 2007 18:14

On 2007-10-03 19:17:10 -0500, Paul Stevens bellsouth.net> said:
> What's the point in requiring diesels to go through an
> emissions test program that was designed for gasoline
> engines? Other than to collect another $9 when diesel
> owners renew their registration?

Frankly, the more I learn about how Metro Government works, the more
amazed I am that it doesn't collapse under its own weight.
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Author: MrWonderful
Date: Oct 4, 2007 16:05

On Oct 4, 11:09?am, Cyrus Afzali wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:17:10 -0500, Paul Stevens
>
> bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>What's the point in requiring diesels to go through an
>>emissions test program that was designed for gasoline
>>engines? Other than to collect another $9 when diesel
>>owners renew their registration?
>
> Hey, at least you can register them. In any state that adheres to the
> California emissions rules, you can't even register a *new* diesel car
> and dealers can't sell them either. You can register
> privately-purchased ones, though.
>
> Sadly, our anti-Europe crusade that's lasted throughout the ages led
> us to choose an inferior technology to power our cars. Diesels have
> always been the better choice; our time and effort would have been
> better spent improving diesel technology to lower the particulates in
> emissions and make better fuel. We're just getting to that now after
> all these years. ...
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Author: David Moffitt
Date: Oct 4, 2007 16:55

"MrWonderful" aol.com> wrote in message
news:1191539106.641455.62250@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
| On Oct 4, 11:09?am, Cyrus Afzali wrote:
| > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:17:10 -0500, Paul Stevens
| >
| > bellsouth.net> wrote:
| > >What's the point in requiring diesels to go through an
| > >emissions test program that was designed for gasoline
| > >engines? Other than to collect another $9 when diesel
| > >owners renew their registration?
| >
| > Hey, at least you can register them. In any state that adheres to the
| > California emissions rules, you can't even register a *new* diesel car
| > and dealers can't sell them either. You can register
| > privately-purchased ones, though.
| >
| > Sadly, our anti-Europe crusade that's lasted throughout the ages led
| > us to choose an inferior technology to power our cars. Diesels have
| > always been the better choice; our time and effort would have been
| > better spent improving diesel technology to lower the particulates in ...
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Author: MrWonderful
Date: Oct 4, 2007 19:22

On Oct 4, 6:55?pm, "David Moffitt" stompingweasels.org>
wrote:
> "MrWonderful" aol.com> wrote in message
> | Not sure if Cyrus just said that no new diesels are allowed to be sold
> | in NY?
> | I have my first diesel. It's cheaper to pass state inspection,
> | unconcerned by emissions which adds costs for gas engines.
> | I like it but it takes 4 *gallons* for an oil change @ $12.50 per, for
> | RotellaT. I got a deal on a few oil filters before PepBoys went out of
> | bus., but the first filter cost about $20 - the deal filters were like
> | $4, and real Purolaters. It was a special, any Purolator for $4, so I
> | scarfed~! Same with air filters.
> | But it's even more important to oil change diesels than gas engines,
> | every 4000 mi.
>
> I get my oil changed at WalMart cheaper than I can do it. I own a 1997 Ford
> F250HD it takes 14 quarts Of RotellaT.
>
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Author: Richard Thomas
Date: Oct 4, 2007 20:02

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:05:06 -0700, MrWonderful aol.com>
wrote:
>But it's even more important to oil change diesels than gas engines,
>every 4000 mi.

The Jetta (diesel) has an oil change interval of 10,000 miles, OEM
filters are $6 online and, rather nicely, are replaced in a cup at the
top of the engine.

Fun to drive too.
>But the main scam is the ethanol scam, useless as a fuel, but so much
>diesel is burned harvesting corn for ethanol that the diesel price is
>high, especially now at harvest time~!

Apparently they are also stockpiling heating oil which cuts into
diesel production and hence pushes the price up.
>But several have told me ethanol is a scam, for ArthurMidland?
>Buncha crap~! Another big corp owns bush-it, and we're paying for it~!
>: ) Lala

Yup. That's government for you.
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Author: Paul Stevens
Date: Oct 4, 2007 20:45

David Moffitt wrote:
> "MrWonderful" aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1191539106.641455.62250@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> | On Oct 4, 11:09?am, Cyrus Afzali wrote:
> | > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:17:10 -0500, Paul Stevens
> | >
> | > bellsouth.net> wrote:
> | > >What's the point in requiring diesels to go through an
> | > >emissions test program that was designed for gasoline
> | > >engines? Other than to collect another $9 when diesel
> | > >owners renew their registration?
> | >
> | > Hey, at least you can register them. In any state that adheres to the
> | > California emissions rules, you can't even register a *new* diesel car
> | > and dealers can't sell them either. You can register
> | > privately-purchased ones, though.
> | >
> | > Sadly, our anti-Europe crusade that's lasted throughout the ages led
> | > us to choose an inferior technology to power our cars. Diesels have
> | > always been the better choice; our time and effort would have been ...
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Re: More government stupidity         


Author: Paul Stevens
Date: Oct 4, 2007 20:53

Richard Thomas wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:05:06 -0700, MrWonderful aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>But it's even more important to oil change diesels than gas engines,
>>every 4000 mi.
>
>
> The Jetta (diesel) has an oil change interval of 10,000 miles,

With synthetic oil, if I'm not mistaken.

--
Paul Stevens
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Author: MrWonderful
Date: Oct 4, 2007 20:55

On Oct 4, 10:02?pm, Richard Thomas dicksonlife.com> wrote:
>
>>But several have told me ethanol is a scam, for ArthurMidland?
>>Buncha crap~! Another big corp owns bush-it, and we're paying for it~!
>>: ) Lala
>
> Yup. That's government for you.
>
> Rich

It's Corruptublucun gov't, Richard.
Gore proposed alternative energy research, but gubs got bullshit
elected.
: [ Lala
: ) Lala
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Author: David Moffitt
Date: Oct 4, 2007 21:32

"Paul Stevens" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:4705B36E.2070603@bellsouth.net...
| David Moffitt wrote:
| > "MrWonderful" aol.com> wrote in message
| > news:1191539106.641455.62250@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
| > | On Oct 4, 11:09?am, Cyrus Afzali wrote:
| > | > On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:17:10 -0500, Paul Stevens
| > | >
| > | > bellsouth.net> wrote:
| > | > >What's the point in requiring diesels to go through an
| > | > >emissions test program that was designed for gasoline
| > | > >engines? Other than to collect another $9 when diesel
| > | > >owners renew their registration?
| > | >
| > | > Hey, at least you can register them. In any state that adheres to
the
| > | > California emissions rules, you can't even register a *new* diesel
car
| > | > and dealers can't sell them either. You can register
| > | > privately-purchased ones, though. ...
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