Kent Finnell wrote:
> "David Moffitt"
stomping-leftist-twits.org> wrote
> in message
> news:beydneqQ9rg3XyfVnZ2dnUVZ_rrinZ2d@earthlink.com...>> "Cyrus Afzali"
wrote in message
>> news:c11kb458vblsv2ju5v3a57jpfdae910knb@4ax.com...
>> | On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:15:08 -0500, "David Moffitt"
>> | stomping-leftist-twits.org> wrote:
>> |
>> | >Translation: The left is afraid, very, very afraid of
>> this woman. With
>> her
>> | >expierence hunting, fishing and flying as a bush pilot
>> she is more of a
>> man
>> | >than the leftist in this group put together.
>> |
>> | Let's break this down very simply.... McCain knew he
>> didn't have the
>> | votes to get elected from the Republican base, so he's
>> trying to steal
>> | pro-Hillary voters. That's all fine, but it doesn't show
>> courage in
>> | your agenda and belief in your electability.
>>
>> I actually like her better than any of the others. Many
>> will vote for McCain
>> hoping he will die and she will become President. Also
>> McCain said he would
>> only serve one term and she would be in the position to be
>> the first woman
>> President. My mother (D) who hates both McCain and Obama
>> said she wasn't
>> going to vote this year. Now I've got to get her out of
>> the house in her
>> wheelchair so she can vote for McCain.
>>
>> |
>> | If Palin was on the Dem ticket, Republicans would be
>> criticizing her
>> | for abandoning her family in the name of a career and
>> for being so
>> | hell bent on adding to the family that she continued
>> having children
>> | into a time in life when the probability of having
>> medical issues
>> | skyrockets. Slam if you want, but that's a fact.>
> But, Cyrus, I thought that women had to right to choose, not
> only to abort but to give birth. She at least has the
> courage of her convictions.
>
So? Of course, that's assuming she actually bore the child....
OTOH, the chief member of the ticket has no such courage of conviction.
He's flipped and/or flopped on just about every so-called conviction
he claimed to have had at one time...to the degree that he no longer
supports numerous major pieces of legislation that he authored and
helped pass.
>> Palin wouldn't be on the Democratic ticket because she is
>> a Life NRA member
>> and pro-life.
>>
>> |
>> | You guys had your shot and proved you can't manage the
>> economy,
>
> You've said in the past, IIRC, that no president or
> political party can really manage the economy. They
> generally get the blame dumped on them if things go badly
> and sometimes get the glory if things go well.
>
So, you think tax policy, Federal budget policy, borrowing tens of
billions of dollars to hand out to the general public and to scores of
private contractors in the Middle East has no effect on the economy? Do
you think the decision to finance the government by paying billions in
interest annually has not effect?
Who formulated and pushed all those agendas? The government might not
have that much effect on the stock market; but it can present a huge
drain on a formerly healthy economy; and that *does* have a negative effect.
>> | can't rescue Americans from a ferocious storm,
>
> Katrenia was an act of nature (or God, dependant on POV) and
> the evcacuation/rescue were initially in the hands of two
> Democrats, the mayor of NO and the governor of LA. They
> initially screwed the pooch. Nagin seems to have learned
> his lesson, hence the evacuation prior to the arrival
> Gustav.
Nagin's learned his lesson? He called for evacuations ahead of Katrina.
He's calling for them now. If you want to see who's *really* learned
lessons, look at your puppet in chief. Before and even *during*
Katrina, he was at a birthday party in Arizona. He did a flyover
afterwards, but seemed generally unconcerned and disconnected from the
crisis until it threatened his popularity. He was getting better intel
from CNN than from his own crony appointees...and even that he dismissed.
Contrast this with his involvement this time around...speeches from FEMA
headquarters, etc.
>
>> | can't capture a man who
>> | torched America and killed 3,000+
>
> How long did it take the FBI to capture Eric Rudolph? He
> was hiding in the much less rugged mountains of NC as
> opposed to the extreme terrain of the Afgan-Paki border.
> While the natives of NC aren't exactly cozy with the feds,
> compare that to the tribal chiefs in those hostile peaks,
> valleys, and arid deserts. For that matter, how long did it
> take the Feds to find James Earl Ray, an inept professional
> criminal? He was more or less hiding in plain sight in the
> US and England.
>
North Carolina has it's own extreme terrain. Have you ever been there?
Capturing Eric Rudolph was not a declared National Priority with the
resources of entire *armies* supposedly at its disposal. Basically, it
was the the bailiwick of a couple of agencies, with much more limited
limited resources...and greater competition for those resources. Even
at that, he *was* captured; despite the fact that he 'only' killed a few
of the Godless heathens who were devoted to 'killing babies'.
Contrast that to the drumbeat of 'Capture Osama', the air strikes, the
CIA assets, the military on the ground, the supposed 'coalition' of
countries--all supposedly devoted to his capture.
Did you ever hear anybody in government *ever* say something like it
'was not all that important' to catch Rudolph? No. That's why he was
eventually captured. Bin Ladin OTOH:
<
http://unitedcats.wordpress.com/2007/02/24/americas-top-ranked-general-on-capturing.../?
<
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/barnes-osama/>
<
http://www.cursor.org/stories/binladenforgotten.htm>
They haven't captured him because they're 'not all that concerned' about
it. He serves a more important purpose at large.
> and on and on. See, Bush gave
>> | Democrats a GREAT thing; a very, very, very shitty
>> record for the
>> | Republicans to defend and a candidate that no one's very
>> enthusiastic
>> | about. The enthusiasm about McCain is *SO* bad, most of
>> his own party
>> | wanted to get him to agree to serve only one term. Man,
>> is that an
>> | endorsement or what?
>>
> I believe that McCain made that decision himself because of
> his age, which doesn't bother me in the least. Have you
> seen and heard his mother? The elder Mrs. McCain, Roberta,
> is 96 and is as sharp as a tack. She's a strong,
> self-assured woman, much like Gov. Palin.
>
If his age is such an issue, even to him, why would he run at all? Is
his hubris so deep that he believes himself so important to the country
that his value outweighs the possible national trauma of replacing a
leader in the middle of a term? That said, the rumors of McCain only
serving one term have been denied by his camp. Do you have some sort of
better information? If he's that worried that he won't be able to cut
it, he should pack his bags and go home--not saddle his party with
someone who they didn't pick and who who has even less federal
experience than his opponent (since 'experience' has been such an
important argument for them)...or an automatic lame duck.
> But then Palin doesn't come across like the aggressive
> ball-buster Hillary.
>
>
Your judgement...and simple ad hominem to boot. Palin has run a very
aggressive government. She's done wholesale house-cleaning in the state
house during her (very) short tenure, and similar actions in her
mayorship. If the term 'ball buster' applies to Hilary, then it would
also apply in spades to Palin.
However, just the description shows you have little information to argue
from...about either woman.
jak
