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Group: nashville.general · Group Profile
Author: jakdedert
Date: May 10, 2008 11:38

Paul Stevens wrote:
> "jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:TN9Vj.769$Kk3.440@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>> Those of the 'America can do no wrong' crowd simply have not been paying
>> attention. Using just the phrase 'uninformed consent medical experiments'
>> googles up a myriad of articles. Interestingly, a surprising number--even
>> to me--deal with such experiments specifically on people of color. These
>> are not rogue doctors practicing in shady institutions, but often
>> prominent researchers at famous facilities...funded by our own Uncle Sam.
>>
>>
>> One book review was of particular interest in that the book in question
>> categorized a long history of such experiments on African Americans.
>>
>> "Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black
>> Americans From Colonial Times to the Present"
>> <http://www.psychservices.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/58/10/1380>
>>
>> "As shocking as that [Tuskegee] incident was, Harriet Washington amply
>> documents how it was but one of many medical abuses committed against
>> African Americans throughout United States history and probably was not
>> the worst. In fact, Washington describes a multifaceted pattern of racist
>> and unethical medical practice, largely unknown to most people in the
>> United States—particularly those who have not experienced racial
>> oppression—with devastating consequences for the well-being of millions of
>> African-American citizens. This practice led to a health "chasm" between
>> blacks and whites and eroded the trust of many African Americans in the
>> medical system to this day."
>>
>>
>> As I said in another post, given the extensive history of such abuse, it's
>> really not a far stretch to imagine why blacks could believe that AIDS
>> might have been the result of an experiment gone wrong. The Reverend
>> Wright's opinion is more representative of black America than those of us,
>> not of color, can imagine.
>>
>> But it doesn't end there. A laundry list of other medical experiments
>> have been performed with government funding and approval upon unsuspecting
>> patients, inmates, soldiers and prisoners over the last half century+
>> since the adoption of the Nuremburg Code (which was supposed to supply
>> guidelines to prevent such atrocities).
>>
>> Google will set you free...but only if you truly want to be free.
>>
>> jak
>
> Yeh, I *had* an aunt that dem doctors gave radiation to when she wuz
> pregnant. Dang guvment doctors didn't care what dey wuz doing to her
> just coz o de color o her...
>
> Oh, wait, she wasn't black. She was just a poor white woman.
> Nevermind. Just forget I mentioned it, since that information would
> indicate that perhaps the government experiments weren't targeting
> black people, but were part of a program offering medical care to
> people who may not have been able to afford it (kinda like the tv
> ads offering medical to people willing to participate in clinical trials
> of a new treatment for a particular medical problem). Move along.
> Nothing to see in this post...
>
If you'll read the subject line, it doesn't exclude anyone. I was
looking originally for examples of uniformed consent, regardless of
race. I didn't go looking specifically for black victimization, I just
found it.

It tied in with the other thread. Not being black, I really hadn't
suspected how widespread it was.

By the time I covered it, I realized the post had gotten longish, so
merely brushed upon the larger question. Sorry if I left your aunt out.
She was either part of a study of a particular scheme of therapeutic
treatment that was being assessed; or else they did an unrelated study
on her because she was 'dying anyway'. Examples of both are not uncommon.

Either way, it was wrong.

She either gave consent to a 'hail mary' procedure which researchers
thought might have prolonged her life...or she didn't. Or else the
procedure was simply unrelated to her condition.

Either way, she wasn't informed, and probably was incapable of giving
informed consent anyway because of her condition.

Try googling the term, as I suggested, instead of reacting to something
I didn't say.

jak
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