> Those of the 'America can do no wrong' crowd simply have not been paying
> attention. Using just the phrase 'uninformed consent medical
> experiments' googles up a myriad of articles. Interestingly, a
> surprising number--even to me--deal with such experiments specifically
> on people of color. These are not rogue doctors practicing in shady
> institutions, but often prominent researchers at famous
> facilities...funded by our own Uncle Sam.
>
>
> One book review was of particular interest in that the book in question
> categorized a long history of such experiments on African Americans.
>
> "Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black
> Americans From Colonial Times to the Present"
> <http://www.psychservices.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/58/10/1380>
>
> "As shocking as that [Tuskegee] incident was, Harriet Washington amply
> documents how it was but one of many medical abuses committed against ...

> Those of the 'America can do no wrong' crowd simply have not been paying
> attention. Using just the phrase 'uninformed consent medical experiments'
> googles up a myriad of articles. Interestingly, a surprising number--even
> to me--deal with such experiments specifically on people of color. These
> are not rogue doctors practicing in shady institutions, but often
> prominent researchers at famous facilities...funded by our own Uncle Sam.
>
>
> One book review was of particular interest in that the book in question
> categorized a long history of such experiments on African Americans.
>
> "Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black
> Americans From Colonial Times to the Present"
> <http://www.psychservices.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/58/10/1380>
>
> "As shocking as that [Tuskegee] incident was, Harriet Washington amply
> documents how it was but one of many medical abuses committed against
> African Americans throughout United States history and probably was not ...

> indicate that perhaps the government experiments weren't targeting
> black people, but were part of a program offering medical care to
> people who may not have been able to afford it (kinda like the tv
> ads offering medical to people willing to participate in clinical trials
> of a new treatment for a particular medical problem). Move along.
> Nothing to see in this post...

> In article bignews3.bellsouth.net>, pauls1
> @bellsouth.net says...
> since that information would

>> indicate that perhaps the government experiments weren't targeting
>> black people, but were part of a program offering medical care to
>> people who may not have been able to afford it (kinda like the tv
>> ads offering medical to people willing to participate in clinical trials
>> of a new treatment for a particular medical problem). Move along.
>> Nothing to see in this post...

>
> The point of the Tuskeegee experiments is that the government _wasn't_
> providing medical care to those who had been diagnosed with syphilis.
> Instead, they were allowed to die to track the effects of the disease.
> Syphilis does not make for an easy death.
>
> The victims weren't told what they had, or that they weren't being
> treated. Otherwise, they might not have gone along with the "study."
> ...

> "fiddler crabby" ya-nospam-hoo.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.228f5e28c4110f9898fb@news.newsguy.com...

>> In article bignews3.bellsouth.net>, pauls1
>> @bellsouth.net says...
>> since that information would

>>> indicate that perhaps the government experiments weren't targeting
>>> black people, but were part of a program offering medical care to
>>> people who may not have been able to afford it (kinda like the tv
>>> ads offering medical to people willing to participate in clinical trials
>>> of a new treatment for a particular medical problem). Move along.
>>> Nothing to see in this post...

>>
>> The point of the Tuskeegee experiments is that the government _wasn't_
>> providing medical care to those who had been diagnosed with syphilis.
>> Instead, they were allowed to die to track the effects of the disease.
>> Syphilis does not make for an easy death.
>>
>> The victims weren't told what they had, or that they weren't being ...

> "jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:TN9Vj.769$Kk3.440@bignews9.bellsouth.net...

>> Those of the 'America can do no wrong' crowd simply have not been paying
>> attention. Using...

> In article bignews2.bellsouth.net>, pauls1
> @bellsouth.net says...

>> "fiddler crabby" ya-nospam-hoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.228f5e28c4110f9898fb@news.newsguy.com...

>>> In article bignews3.bellsouth.net>, pauls1
>>> @bellsouth.net says...
>>> since that information would

>>>> indicate that perhaps the government experiments weren't targeting
>>>> black people, but were part of a program offering medical care to
>>>> people who may not have been able to afford it (kinda like the tv
>>>> ads offering medical to people willing to participate in clinical
>>>> trials
>>>> of a new treatment for a particular medical problem). Move along.
>>>> Nothing to see in this post...

>>>
>>> The point of the Tuskeegee experiments is that the government _wasn't_
>>> providing medical care to those who had been diagnosed with syphilis.
>>> Instead, they were allowed to die to track the effects of the disease. ...

> You seem surprisingly closed minded on this point, Paul. One personal
> anecdote does not refute history, no matter what dialect you choose to
> present it.

> "fiddler crabby" ya-nospam-hoo.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.228f6d362eff8eca9898fd@news.newsguy.com...

>> In article bignews2.bellsouth.net>, pauls1
>> @bellsouth.net says...

>>> "fiddler crabby" ya-nospam-hoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.228f5e28c4110f9898fb@news.newsguy.com...

>>>> In article bignews3.bellsouth.net>, pauls1
>>>> @bellsouth.net says...
>>>> since that information would

>>>>> indicate that perhaps the government experiments weren't targeting
>>>>> black people, but were part of a program offering medical care to
>>>>> people who may not have been able to afford it (kinda like the tv
>>>>> ads offering medical to people willing to participate in clinical
>>>>> trials
>>>>> of a new treatment for a particular medical problem). Move along.
>>>>> Nothing to see in this post...

>>>>
>>>> The point of the Tuskeegee experiments is that the government _wasn't_ ...