Volt wrote:

I didn't say how much I make in a year, and don't intend to; it is none
of your business--besides, I don't like you. I have averaged 120,00
miles per year for 20 years.

oh, I take it you're, what, a traveling salesman?

You are a wise ass. And a troll. You come into this ng with a wise ass
attitude, you'll generally earn that attitude in return. You tried to
hammer me with the idiotic demand "what is your pay?" making the same
asinine demand about a dozen times in one posting. What, you were
curious about trucking and couldn't look it up yourself? Or were you
merely being a wise ass? We all know the answer to that.

I have a very high opinion of myself, ask anyone who posts here
regularly. I was being rather nice to you; I didn't call you what I
really thought of you after your first posting. It's an ugly fact of
life that some people earn disrespectful appellations. I'm sure you've
been labeled asshole a number of times.

you never get any? Well, now, I can understand why you're such an
irritating bitch.

Shall I also tell you how much I paid for my home? for my boat? for my
pet? My finances are none of your business. BTW, I believe you to be
a liar. 48 cent per mile for more than 70,00 miles per year, plus a
salary? How much is the salary, and for doing what? Do you drive, or
fly? do you pull a trailer? do you sleep in motels?

The article stated that they would receive only an AIDS test, as an
estimated 70%% of their truck drivers have AIDS.

Research human parasites. Symptoms of several human parasites don't
show up for months, and some require weeks of treatment. Pinworms, for
instance, crawl out of the anus to lay their microscopic eggs; the eggs
can be passed by toilet seats, by someone who doesn't wash his/her hands
after a bowel movement, by scraps of toilet paper stuck to the bottom of
one's shoe, even by sitting down in a seat recently vacated by an
infested person. It's an unfortunate fact that a significant percentage
of adults, both male and female, don't wash their hands except by
accident when they try to cover their heads in a rainstorm. Here in
America, our kids sometimes pick up lice in school, and they are a bitch
to get rid of. But our kids and our adults get infested by worms and
other internal parasites only when they make a visit to a 3rd world
nation. Like India. Or when low-caste Indians or other aliens visit,
spreading parasite eggs in public areas.

Now, on to another part of my remarks. Driver training. Six weeks
training is insufficient for a truck driver...even for American truck
drivers. Becoming a skilled truck driver requires years, hundreds of
thousand of miles behind the wheel.

You may take it to the bank that the primary reason for the importation
of 20,000 Indian drivers--or 20,000 Mexican drivers-- into the US is to
depress driver wages.

you are a wise ass little bitch. Don't merely rant. Produce evidence I
lied in any remark I made. Prove that you drive anything larger than a
tricycle. That you drive more than 70,000 miles per year. That you
earn 48 cents per mile plus salary.

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-- The American Heritage Dictionary

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is...I think it's also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn."
------George W. Bush to the Houston Chronicle, April 9th, 1999

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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:54:02 -0600, "johnny@." wrote:

February 16, 2007

Truckers on American highways will hear a new accent on their two-way
radios when India exports its first batch of lorry drivers to the US to
meet a severe manpower shortage.

For the past four months more than 200 ?transportation specialists? have
been put through their paces at a training school in the state of Andhra
Pradesh where US conditions have been replicated ? from the size of the
trailers to Yankee truckers? slang.

The first 25 truckers have been earmarked for a company in Pennsylvania
and are waiting for their two-year visas to be processed, according to
the Overseas Manpower Consultancy of Andhra Pradesh (OMCAP), the
government-owned company that was set up to fill overseas job vacancies
and reduce the exploitation of Indian workers.

Cut!

More truckers will be lured to the US with the prospect of earning in a
month what would take a year to earn slogging across India on its
notoriously dangerous roads.

Drivers in the US on average take home $5,000 (£2,500) a month plus good
benefits but fewer Americans are interested in long-haul because of the
amount of time they spend away from home.

Gagan Global, the US company recruiting the drivers, says that there are
an estimated 20,000 vacancies that urgently need filling.

?Americans do not want to do this type of labour and as the population
ages, drivers are retiring,? Philip Gagan, the chief executive, said.
?The work ethic in India is phenomenal and an 80-hour week is just what
they?re accustomed to. They won?t have to work those kinds of hours in
the US, of course, but they?re willing.? The Indian drivers were trained
at a state-of-the-art training facility in Ambapuram, a village near the
coastal city of Vijayawada. The curriculum was devised according to US
standards as those selected have to pass written and practical
examinations to obtain local licences.

The course, costing 25,000 rupees (£290) per head, includes manoeuvring
18-wheel rather than 16-wheel trailers, understanding US traffic rules
and different social customs.

?They learn left-hand driving as well as etiquette and culture,? R.
Karikal Valaven, the managing director of OMCAP, said. ?They also need
to
interact with Mr Gagan so that they can understand the American accent.?
Trainees must already possess a heavy vehicle driving licence and at
least five years? experience. They also have to pass an HIV test.
India?s
3.3 million truckers are among the highest risk groups because many pick
up prostitutes and refuse to wear condoms.

The arrival of more foreign workers may upset trade unions. The $200
billion a year US trucking industry is heavily unionised. Plans by the
Bush Administration to allow Mexican truckers beyond an agreed 20-mile
border-hugging zone in Texas have encountered fierce resistance.

Mr Gagan defended his programme, saying that both the US and India would
benefit. ?They?re not taking away jobs [in the US]. There is a shortage.
There are companies that have 5,000 trucks and 1,000 of them are sitting
idle in their yards without anyone to work them,? he said. ?The Indians
are not going just as drivers. They will learn about the American system
and bring their knowledge back home.?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1392427.ece

Just another scheme to depress wages for American workers.
Max

ain't George a really great guy?

How is it George's fault that people do not want to be over the road
truck
drivers? (this should be good)

He gave the orders that is allowing the foreign workers to be
imported--in spite of DOT complaints.

They were here before he was elected.

A handful. They came in as individuals, not in a group-fuck.
Lots of Aussies and other English-speakers have been driving here nearly
as long as I have (20+ years). They are excellent drivers, they can read
our road signs, they don't put their six-year-old children behind the
wheel with the truck rolling and go to bed. American drivers welcome
these qualified drivers.

Why don't people want to be truck drivers? quite simple, really. The
pay is poor,

What is the pay.

Poor, compared to what it would be in five years if thousands of poorly
trained non-English speaking drivers aren't brought in.

Dodge noted. How much does it pay?

what are you, a troll? you obviously are not a driver: truck drivers
know how much drivers earn.
But I'll save you the easy research. Drivers earn from a low of about
$28,000 to as much as $70,000.

for the sake of other readers, I am separating your posts from mine.

THe Troll: Is that a salary or by the hour?

I'll assume that you aren't being facetious; that you really are that
ignorant, and don't know how to conduct a google search about the
transportation industry.

Most of us are paid by the mile.

So am I, plus salary. If you are only making $28,000 a year you are driving
less than 70,000 miles a year, and I drove more than that in my job.

I didn't say how much I make in a year, and don't intend to; it is none
of your business--besides, I don't like you.  I have averaged 120,00
miles per year for 20 years.

Before road expenses, of course. Road
expenses vary depending on each driver's eating habits. you can figure
out for yourself how much that'll be.
The Troll: My employer doesn't buy my meals either. Should I protest?

You aren't required to be OTR for weeks at a time, taking all your meals
in truckstops. What do you have to protest about?

I can be out for weeks at a time and buy my meals where ever I desire. It is
part of my job to feed myself. I may be in Charleston SC this week and
Phoenix next week stopping at various points in between.

oh, I take it you're, what, a traveling salesman?

the working conditions are poor.

How so? Have you ever driven over the road?

who the fuck are you, dipshit. 20+ years, all OTR (for you non-drivers:
OTR=over the road).
how many days have you been a driver?

Dodge noted. How much does it pay?

fuck you, troll.

THe TROLL: I see you are a sexual deviant also. Sorry but, I prefer women.

But then you too are a woman.
I'll be as respectful with you as you are with me, but don't try to
match wits with me, troll. Better men than you have tried and been sorry
they got nasty with me.

You are definately comical and display a great degree of poor self esteem
and need to elevate yourself with ad-hominem.

You are a wise ass.  And a troll.  You come into this ng with a wise
ass attitude, you'll generally earn that attitude in return.  You tried
to hammer me with the idiotic demand "what is your pay?" making the
same asinine demand about a dozen times in one posting.  What, you were
curious about trucking and couldn't look it up yourself?  Or were you
merely being a wise ass?  We all know the answer to that. 

I have a very high opinion of myself, ask anyone who posts here
regularly.  I was being rather nice to you; I didn't call you what I
really thought of you after your first posting. It's an ugly fact of
life that some people earn disrespectful appellations.  I'm sure you've
been labeled asshole a number of times.

Improve either one, then more people will join the industry. More
American drivers...less need to bring in poorly trained, non-English
speaking ragheads. They're gonna test them imports for AIDS--they say.
But what of the tapeworms and other parasites embedded in their bodies,
hmmm? they bather in the same "holy rivers" in which they bury their
dead.

They cremate their dead.

But first they get a holy bath, floating in the drinking water.

no comment, troll?
THE TROLL: My Indian neigbor said you are full of poop.

your indian friend's poop likely is full of roundworms, pinworms and
tapeworms. If you live with him/her, yours probably is too by now.
Been tested for AIDS lately?

Two months ago in a healt screening but since I do not practice any risk
factors I had no fear. You?

you never get any?  Well, now, I can understand why you're such an
irritating bitch.

They'll be dropping parasites all over the place

I see you are also a racist.

enter this into google:
parasites infecting humans in India

718,000 hits. Tapeworms, roundworms, an entire plethora of microscopic
invaders of a human body.
Some don't "wake up" and become active till years after
infestation--while they're in the US.
And, yes, Dorothy, some of these can be picked up off toilet seats.

Dodge noted. How much does it pay?

fuck you, troll.

Dodge noted. I'll re-word the question. How much a mile are you paid? I'm
paid 48 cents.

Shall I also tell you how much I paid for my home? for my boat? for my
pet?  My finances are none of your business.   BTW, I believe you to be
a liar.  48 cent per mile for more than 70,00 miles per year, plus a
salary? How much is the salary, and for doing what? Do you drive, or
fly? do you pull a trailer? do you sleep in motels?   

Got no prejudice against Indians.
I see you are also a liar.

you are out of bounds. your own prejudice is showing.

Most of the Indians now in the US are fine folk, as are most of the
Mexicans, whether they came in legal or swimming. Many Indians own
their own businesses--most of the independent motels in America are
owned by Indian families. I wonder where they got the money, to get off
the boat directly into a major realty purchase. Grants from the Indian
government, trying to send their overflow population here?

I am not prejudiced. I am however, wise enough to realize that enough
is enough!

One last point. You 3rd worlders: you've spent 3000 years fucking up
your own societies...bowing down to corruption, hiding your heads rather
than battle despots. Shitting in the water you must drink, then
wondering why you pick up parasites when you bathe in it. Allowing
"god" cows to destroy your crops. You created your own overcrowding.
Live with it. We are helping you solve your problems though. Our
corporations have sent you hundreds of thousands of our jobs; our
government is sending you billions of our tax dollars in aid. Stay
home. We have more than enough problems without half a billion of your
poorest and least qualified.

You are a racist. How much does it pay?

you're an ignorant troll.
fuck you.

I hope they live safe and happy and healthy lives. In India. We've
been importing foreigners from that part of the world for a long time;
but most of those have a strong support group already here...these are
upper middle class and less likely to be drain on our economy. The
20,000 (just the beginning salvo) Bush has given permission to bring
into the trucking industry are poor, poorly educated, carrying disease
and parasites we don't need. Christ, we have 25 million illegal
Mexicans here and god and bush only knows how many millions are being
brought in "legally." When is enough enough?

If you decide to reply to any other thread on this NG, a word of
advice: skip a line, separate your reply from the post you are
responding to.

Don't post in HTML. How much does it pay?

if your newsreader can't handle html, that is your problem.
But for the benefit of those who can and those who can't, I post in both
Thunderbird text and html.

Allow me to explain what I meant earlier. When you post within another
post without first entering a line break (your ENTER key), your reply in
effect becomes an indistinguishable part of the original post. Has
nothing at all to do with html.

You're a bright boy. Couldn't you figure that out for yourself?

Now crawl back under your bridge, troll.

TROLL: I see you do not like your lies pointed out.

you haven't disproven any opinion I have expressed.

I made the case that importing 20,000 non-English-speaking,
parasite-infested, poorly trained wannabe truckers into the United
States in order to further depress the wages of American citizens is a
very bad mistake.

You missed the point or ignored that they would be tested for diseases.

The article stated that they would receive only an AIDS test, as an
estimated 70%% of their truck drivers have AIDS. 

Research human parasites.  Symptoms of several human parasites don't
show up for months, and some require weeks of treatment.  Pinworms, for
instance, crawl out of the anus to lay their microscopic eggs; the eggs
can be passed by toilet seats, by someone who doesn't wash his/her
hands after a bowel movement, by scraps of toilet paper stuck to the
bottom of one's shoe, even by sitting down in a seat recently vacated
by an infested person.  It's an unfortunate fact that a significant
percentage of adults, both male and female, don't wash their hands
except by accident when they try to cover their heads in a rainstorm. 
Here in America, our kids sometimes pick up lice in school, and they
are a bitch to get rid of.  But our kids and our adults get infested by
worms and other internal parasites only when they make a visit to a 3rd
world nation.  Like India. Or when low-caste Indians or other aliens
visit, spreading parasite eggs in public areas.

Now, on to another part of my remarks.  Driver training.  Six weeks
training is insufficient for a truck driver...even for American truck
drivers.  Becoming a skilled truck driver requires years, hundreds of
thousand of miles behind the wheel.

You may take it to the bank that the primary reason for the importation
of 20,000 Indian drivers--or 20,000 Mexican drivers-- into the US is to
depress driver wages.

Against my better judgment I even taught you a few things you wanted to
know about my industry.

You taught me only that you are a liar and are either afraid to or cannot
answer my questions.

you are a wise ass little bitch.  Don't merely rant.  Produce evidence
I lied in any remark I made.  Prove that you drive anything larger than
a tricycle.  That you drive more than 70,000 miles per year.  That you
earn 48 cents per mile plus salary.