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Group: nashville.general · Group Profile
Author: David MoffittDavid Moffitt Date: Sep 9, 2008 21:07
"Cyrus Afzali" wrote in message
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| On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 21:26:56 -0500, "David Moffitt"
| stomping-leftist-twits.org> wrote:
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| >"Cyrus Afzali" wrote in message
| >news:kvvac45j5d6582qjok69o6dcfumjk9jsss@4ax.com...
| >| On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 23:54:41 -0500, "David Moffitt"
| >| stomping-leftist-twits.org> wrote:
| >|
| >| >
| >| >"Cyrus Afzali" wrote in message
| >| >news:8s79c4d10q4v1rhlt5s68fikdke81k5anh@4ax.com...
| >| >| On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:18:04 -0500, "Kent Finnell"
| >| >| bellsouth.net> wrote:
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| >| >| >"Cyrus Afzali" wrote in message
| >| >| >news:ahq8c4db3gedge90da3kuvqakmvoscu9m4@4ax.com...
| >| >|
| >| >| >> Sarah Baracuda has a thin resume and is just getting
| >| >| >> cheers because
| >| >| >> she's a hunter for God's sake.
| >| >| >
| >| >| >I don't believe that for a second, Cyrus. Her being a
| >| >| >hunter has damn little, if anything, to do with her getting
| >| >| >cheeers.
| >| >|
| >| >| Kent, the lines in her speech that got the loudest applause had
| >| >| NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING, in terms of detail on what she would do
| >| >| for the country. That's what I dislike about the Republicans' habit
of
| >| >| draping themselves in a veil of patriotism because it gives no kind
of
| >| >| idea whatsoever whether they will be effective leaders.
| >| >
| >| >Did you watch and listen to Biden's speech? He said absolutely NOTHING
in
| >| >terms of details on what he would do for the country. Vice
Presidential
| >| >candidates do not talk about what they will do for the country, that's
| >| >speech is for the Presidential candidates.
| >|
| >| The difference is he already has 3 decades of experience serving the
| >| country, including in a foreign affairs capacity, unlike Palin who's
| >| an unknown.
| >
| >%%%%%%%% Obama has no expierence either. I guess if elected Biden can teach
him
| >what the President's duties are.
|
| He's in the Senate, she's not. Also, let us not forget that
| Republicans have this great little habit of getting us into lots of
| deep shit under false pretenses; Dems don't.
%%%%%%%% I see you also slept through history class.
So before I elect a
| Republican, I honestly think about them from a foreign policy
| standpoint much harder than a Democrat because of their checkered
| history.
|
| Again, Bush
%%%%%%%%%% Is not running for President.
has sat on his ass while the country burned and drowned
| and has shown virtually no leadership. As Bob Woodward's book points
| out, which uses interviews from Bush and NOT, NOT, NOT any form of
| heresay -- he has genuinely been disengaged from Iraq, believing that
| it's not an initiative he personally should be involved in managing.
| Given that the role of commander in chief is about the only thing the
| president CAN manage unilaterally, if this isn't a screw up, I don't
| know what is.
|
| >|
| >| >| Secondly, it's undeniable that Democratic presidents, including
| >| >| Clinton and Carter, have succeeded at bringing world leaders to the
| >| >| peace table
| >| >
| >| >All of them went back to fighting within 6 months.
| >|
| >| Egypt and Israel went back to fighting? Hmmmm, news to me.
| >
| >Carter finished what King Hassan II of Morocco and Nicolae Ceausescu of
| >Romania had started and tried to take credit for all of it.
|
| Well, at least we finish something. Bushie's going to leave the next
| guy with piles of shit everywhere.
| >
| > The
| >| Yugoslav republics went back to fighting? Hmmm, news to me.
| >
| >You don't read the news do you. Do a search on the Balkans Wars from 1991
to
| >2001 during Clintons reign Cyrus.
|
| Big difference
%%%%%%%% Sure, Clinton was a Democrat and Bush is a Republican.
is we got involved in that conflict in a positive way.
| Milosivich is gone and being tried for war crimes and things are much
| better there over a relatively short span of time given what happened.
| I guarantee you that you won't be able to say the same thing about
| Iraq less than a decade after the end of fighting.
| >
| >I see you do not like the support for the war that came from the left.
Did
| >you notice that quite a few were BEFORE Bush was elected Cyrus?
|
| You won't get me roped into this one.
%%%%%%%% Dodge, weave, duck. ":o)
Saying something should be done
| about Saddam and equating that with the war effort that was launched
| as a covert jihad by GWB and something that HE HIMSELF admits he
| doesn't actively manage are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
|
| Again, Woodward's interviews are on tape; Bush says these things
| HIMSELF. You can't accuse him of making this stuff up; Bush really is
| that stupid.
|
| >| >Does this mean you disagree with T. Boone Pickens?
| >|
| >| You'll have to provide some context beyond his drive to get the U.S.
| >| to adopt natural gas a transportation fuel and to use wind as an
| >| energy source. Pickens isn't chanting drill, drill, drill like those
| >| clowns are.
| >
| >He said drill now as a stop gap while we develop new technologies.
| >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0GmdYI06ms
|
| He's also putting a TON of his own money toward win and other
| renewable resources. I actually own a large amount of stock in a
| company that Pickens is backing that specializes in waste-to-energy
| conversion, so I know a lot about what he's doing. He's not a one
| trick pony like Bushie.
| >
| > He's saying use the natural gas that America already has
| >| in abundance for transportation, which would remove much of our need
| >| to import foreign oil and transfer wealth to inhospitable countries.
| >
| >Our cars and trucks do not run on natural gas. That is a technology that
| >needs to be adapted. You can't go down to the corner Mom and Pop and get
a
| >fill-up of natural gas.
|
| Every car on the road today can be adapted
%%%%%%%% Who is going to pay for it? How is that couple on a fixed income going
to afford it?
and the infrastructure in
| terms of pipeline to deliver CNG is already there.
%%%%%%%%%% Where is the gas going to come from? Someone is going to have to
drill. Can you say ANWR?
Again, I dare say I
| know much more about you on this because I've actually got my money in
| it.
%%%%%%%% So do I, my mutual funds are heavily into gas and oil stocks.
"My sense of purpose is gone! I have no idea who I AM!"
"Oh, my God... You've.. You've turned him into a DEMOCRAT!" -- Doonesbury
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