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Death of American Democracy         


Author: Walt
Date: Oct 19, 2006 03:46

The unlawful combatant/detainee law recently passed by Congress was
flawed on several constitutional points.

It is an ex post facto law -- it applies to people already arrested.
That is forbidden in the Constitution.

It also flagrantly violates the 4th, 6th and 14th amendments.

It also makes a complete mockery of the progress we've made as a nation
on civil liberties.

President Lincoln wrote:

"It forces us to ask: 'Is there, in all republics, this inherent and
fatal weakness?' 'Must a government, of necessity, be too strong for
the liberties of its own people, or too weak to maintain its own
existence?'"

The United States has now failed the test.

MSNBC.com:

JONATHAN TURLEY, GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY CONSTITUTIONAL LAW
PROFESSOR: Thanks, Keith.
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Re: Death of American Democracy         


Author: MrWonderful
Date: Oct 19, 2006 22:14

Walt wrote:
> The unlawful combatant/detainee law recently passed by Congress was
> flawed on several constitutional points.
>
> It is an ex post facto law -- it applies to people already arrested.
> That is forbidden in the Constitution.
>
> It also flagrantly violates the 4th, 6th and 14th amendments.
>
> It also makes a complete mockery of the progress we've made as a nation
> on civil liberties.
>
> President Lincoln wrote:
>
> "It forces us to ask: 'Is there, in all republics, this inherent and
> fatal weakness?' 'Must a government, of necessity, be too strong for
> the liberties of its own people, or too weak to maintain its own
> existence?'"
>
> The United States has now failed the test. ...
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Re: Death of American Democracy         


Author: maxo
Date: Oct 19, 2006 22:34

MrWonderful wrote:
> Walt wrote:
>> The unlawful combatant/detainee law recently passed by Congress was
>> flawed on several constitutional points.
>>
>> It is an ex post facto law -- it applies to people already arrested.
>> That is forbidden in the Constitution.
>>
>> It also flagrantly violates the 4th, 6th and 14th amendments.
>>
>> It also makes a complete mockery of the progress we've made as a nation
>> on civil liberties.
>>
>> President Lincoln wrote:
>[snip]
>
> Walt's is the most significant post of the year, yet none reply~!
>
> Follow the link and click the face to hear Olbermann's editorial,
> affirming Walt's post. ...
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Re: Death of American Democracy         


Author: maxo
Date: Oct 19, 2006 22:37

MrWonderful wrote:
> Walt wrote:
>> The unlawful combatant/detainee law recently passed by Congress was
>> flawed on several constitutional points.
>>
>> It is an ex post facto law -- it applies to people already arrested.
>> That is forbidden in the Constitution.
>>
>> It also flagrantly violates the 4th, 6th and 14th amendments.
>>
>> It also makes a complete mockery of the progress we've made as a nation
>> on civil liberties.
>>
>> President Lincoln wrote:
>[snip]
>
> Walt's is the most significant post of the year, yet none reply~!
>
> Follow the link and click the face to hear Olbermann's editorial,
> affirming Walt's post. ...
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Re: Death of American Democracy         


Author: Gotham2K1
Date: Oct 19, 2006 22:40

Walt wrote:
> The unlawful combatant/detainee law recently passed by Congress was
> flawed on several constitutional points.
>
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Re: Death of American Democracy         


Author: Boston Blackie
Date: Oct 20, 2006 07:16

In article newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Gotham2K1 earthlink.net> wrote:
> Walt wrote:
>> The unlawful combatant/detainee law recently passed by Congress was
>> flawed on several constitutional points.
>>

Look out, Georg has grown another personality!
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Re: Death of American Democracy         


Author: MrWonderful
Date: Oct 20, 2006 10:36

maxo wrote:
> MrWonderful wrote:
>> Walt wrote:
>>> The unlawful combatant/detainee law recently passed by Congress was
>>> flawed on several constitutional points.
>>>
>>> It is an ex post facto law -- it applies to people already arrested.
>>> That is forbidden in the Constitution.
>>>
>>> It also flagrantly violates the 4th, 6th and 14th amendments.
>>>
>>> It also makes a complete mockery of the progress we've made as a nation
>>> on civil liberties.
>>>
>>> President Lincoln wrote:
>>[snip]
>>
>> Walt's is the most significant post of the year, yet none reply~!
>>
>> Follow the link and click the face to hear Olbermann's editorial, ...
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Re: Death of American Democracy         


Author: Richard Thomas
Date: Oct 20, 2006 16:44

On 19 Oct 2006 22:14:19 -0700, "MrWonderful" aol.com>
wrote:
>Walt's is the most significant post of the year, yet none reply~!

I felt there was nothing more to say.

Rich
--
I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
--Robert A. Heinlein
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