"Doug Smith" wrote in message
news:pan.2007.03.11.16.42.02.362587@invalid.nospam...
> On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:33:47 -0800, KD wrote:
>>> Whatever the 2nd Amendment may accomplish, it most assuredly is NOT an
>>> effective crime-fighting tool.
>>
>> The purpose of the second amendment is not that it is crime fighting
>> tool. Just like the first amendment is not a crime fighting tool.
>> Irrelevant. That people with permits break the laws regarding
>> concealed carry and that people with permits break the laws about
>> concealed carry should have NO bearing on the legitimacy of the second
>> amendment.
>
> It would appear I missed the point of your post, having managed to not see
> the part about any violations of the concealed carry law. (that may have
> been a symptom of temporary blindness :( )
>
> I certainly agree that the 2nd Amendment is not *intended* to be a
> crime-fighting tool. There do seem to be a fair number of people who feel
> otherwise.
>
>> I posted the news item not to prove anything in particular. I admit to
>> being happy to read that two folks with carry permits were able to
>> (possibly) prevent a "bad guy" from harming / killing other people
>> WITHOUT HAVING TO FIRE THEIR WEAPONS.
>
> I certainly cannot argue with this! - every once in awhile, a bad idea
> actually works. Nor do I think concealed carry has been
> counterproductive. (I think the widespread arming of the general public
> has been counterproductive, but once a citizen is armed it doesn't make
> much difference whether the weapon is concealed or not. Concealed
> carriers are probably somewhat safer due to the required education.)
>
> On the other hand, if one *is* carrying to deter crime, doesn't it make
> more sense for the weapon to be visible?
Then you might have some nitwits who want to play "fastest gun in
(neighborhood of your choice)." I think those situations where found mainly
in the penny-dreadfuls and Saturday B-Westerns, but it may have been
imprinted. Hell, even Sammy Davis, Jr. used to engage in fast draw
competitions. "Wyatt Earp, Wyatt Earp, brave, courageous and strong ..."
"Mister Dillion, Mister Dillion ..." "Maverick was his name ..."Have Gun,
Will Travel" ... from the early 1930s to the mid 1960s, one could hardly go
a day without some reminder of our mythic Wild West.
--
"If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended
victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police,
and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he
must be taught to fear is his victim."
. . Jeff Cooper (1920-2006)
--
Kent Finnell, from the Music City, USA
