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Author: jakdedert
Date: Sep 3, 2008 22:35

Last Friday I took my trusty Corolla in for the annual smog check. It
failed. Max allowable HC level was 220 ppm. Mine read 225...something
like 2%% high. Frankly, I've not changed the plugs in the beast since
sometime early in this century, some 50k miles ago. Did that
immediately and noticed a slight, barely perceptible increase in
performance. Also checked the air filter, which has probably not been
changed since the 20th century; but is checked and cleaned occasionally.
It looked fine, although I knocked some dust out of it.

No problem, I think. It probably will pass, since it was such a small
overage, and the plugs were really worn...EXCEPT; this one's so old that
they have to check with a probe up the tailpipe (Ouch! Something about
writing that made me feel distinctly uncomfortable)--no ECU terminal
hookup. No other instrumentation is connected to the car. That's fine.
They've been doing this every year for the the last 15 that I've owned
this particular vehicle...EXCEPT; this time--before failing the
car--they asked me to run the engine up to 2350 RPM and hold it.
Okay...EXCEPT; there's no tachometer on the car! They'd always checked
it at idle before.
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Re: And now, for something completely different         


Author: jakdedert
Date: Sep 3, 2008 22:55

jakdedert wrote:
> Last Friday I took my trusty Corolla in for the annual smog check. It
> failed. Max allowable HC level was 220 ppm. Mine read 225...something
> like 2%% high. Frankly, I've not changed the plugs in the beast since
> sometime early in this century, some 50k miles ago. Did that
> immediately and noticed a slight, barely perceptible increase in
> performance. Also checked the air filter, which has probably not been
> changed since the 20th century; but is checked and cleaned occasionally.
> It looked fine, although I knocked some dust out of it.
>
> No problem, I think. It probably will pass, since it was such a small
> overage, and the plugs were really worn...EXCEPT; this one's so old that
> they have to check with a probe up the tailpipe (Ouch! Something about
> writing that made me feel distinctly uncomfortable)--no ECU terminal
> hookup. No other instrumentation is connected to the car. That's fine.
> They've been doing this every year for the the last 15 that I've owned
> this particular vehicle...EXCEPT; this time--before failing the
> car--they asked me to run the engine up to 2350 RPM and hold it.
> Okay...EXCEPT; there's no tachometer on the car! They'd always checked
> it at idle before. ...
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Re: And now, for something completely different         


Author: Paul Stevens
Date: Sep 4, 2008 03:56

"jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> jakdedert wrote:
>> Last Friday I took my trusty Corolla in for the annual smog check. It
>> failed. Max allowable HC level was 220 ppm. Mine read 225...something
>> like 2%% high. Frankly, I've not changed the plugs in the beast since
>> sometime early in this century, some 50k miles ago. Did that immediately
>> and noticed a slight, barely perceptible increase in performance. Also
>> checked the air filter, which has probably not been changed since the
>> 20th century; but is checked and cleaned occasionally. It looked fine,
>> although I knocked some dust out of it.
>>
>> No problem, I think. It probably will pass, since it was such a small
>> overage, and the plugs were really worn...EXCEPT; this one's so old that
>> they have to check with a probe up the tailpipe (Ouch! Something about
>> writing that made me feel distinctly uncomfortable)--no ECU terminal
>> hookup. No other instrumentation is connected to the car. That's fine.
>> They've been doing this every year for the the last 15 that I've owned
>> this particular vehicle...EXCEPT; this time--before failing the car--they
>> asked me to run the engine up to 2350 RPM and hold it. Okay...EXCEPT; ...
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Author: Paul Stevens
Date: Sep 4, 2008 04:21

"jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:gqKvk.21637$IB6.8828@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
> No problem, I think. It probably will pass, since it was such a small
> overage, and the plugs were really worn...EXCEPT; this one's so old that
> they have to check with a probe up the tailpipe (Ouch! Something about
> writing that made me feel distinctly uncomfortable)--no ECU terminal
> hookup. No other instrumentation is connected to the car. That's fine.

One of the things (maybe the only thing) that will cause a vehicle to fail
the test (on a vehicle with the OBD II terminal hookup) is the vehicle's
computer showing that it has had a 'code' (check engine light came on,
since the last time the computer was cleared). A coworker had a problem
with the check engine light coming on, but couldn't find the problem
causing it. His tags were due for renewal, so he had to get it tested. He
pulled over, a block or two from the testing station, hooked up his
Snap-On OBD II diagnostic unit, cleared the 'codes', then put the unit
away and got in line at the testing station. As he was leaving, a block or
two from the testing station, his check engine light came on, but he had
already passed the emissions test.

What's the point of doing a test that's so easy to 'cheat' on?
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Re: And now, for something completely different         


Author: jakdedert
Date: Sep 4, 2008 05:36

Paul Stevens wrote:
> "jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:gqKvk.21637$IB6.8828@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>
>> No problem, I think. It probably will pass, since it was such a small
>> overage, and the plugs were really worn...EXCEPT; this one's so old that
>> they have to check with a probe up the tailpipe (Ouch! Something about
>> writing that made me feel distinctly uncomfortable)--no ECU terminal
>> hookup. No other instrumentation is connected to the car. That's fine.
>
> One of the things (maybe the only thing) that will cause a vehicle to fail
> the test (on a vehicle with the OBD II terminal hookup) is the vehicle's
> computer showing that it has had a 'code' (check engine light came on,
> since the last time the computer was cleared). A coworker had a problem
> with the check engine light coming on, but couldn't find the problem
> causing it. His tags were due for renewal, so he had to get it tested. He
> pulled over, a block or two from the testing station, hooked up his
> Snap-On OBD II diagnostic unit, cleared the 'codes', then put the unit
> away and got in line at the testing station. As he was leaving, a block or
> two from the testing station, his check engine light came on, but he had ...
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Re: And now, for something completely different         


Author: Paul Stevens
Date: Sep 4, 2008 10:38

"jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Paul Stevens wrote:
>> "jakdedert" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:gqKvk.21637$IB6.8828@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>> No problem, I think. It probably will pass, since it was such a small
>>> overage, and the plugs were really worn...EXCEPT; this one's so old that
>>> they have to check with a probe up the tailpipe (Ouch! Something about
>>> writing that made me feel distinctly uncomfortable)--no ECU terminal
>>> hookup. No other instrumentation is connected to the car. That's fine.
>>
>> One of the things (maybe the only thing) that will cause a vehicle to
>> fail
>> the test (on a vehicle with the OBD II terminal hookup) is the vehicle's
>> computer showing that it has had a 'code' (check engine light came on,
>> since the last time the computer was cleared). A coworker had a problem
>> with the check engine light coming on, but couldn't find the problem
>> causing it. His tags were due for renewal, so he had to get it tested.
>> He ...
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