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Author: hal lillywhitehal lillywhite Date: Sep 11, 2007 07:50
ClassWarz wrote:
> In a study likely to raise the hackles of some conservatives, psychologist
> David Amodio and others found that a specific region of the brain's cortex
> is more sensitive in people who consider themselves liberals than in
> self-declared conservatives.
A study involving all of 43 students and with the article not
reporting how many classified themselves in each category. Shows only
the statistical ignorance of anyone who would take that seriously.
Of course the subjects were also college students who had not yet
matured in their thinking, another likely cause of skewed results.
> The brain region in question helps people shift gears when their usual
> response would be inappropriate, supporting the notion that liberals are
> more flexible in their thinking.
>From what I've seen, talking to friends and looking at responses on
this group, neither leftists nor those on the right are particularly
flexible. Both tend to stick by their beliefs in the face of evidence
to the contrary.
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Date: Sep 11, 2007 09:42
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> ClassWarz wrote:
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>> In a study likely to raise the hackles of some conservatives,
>> psychologist
>> David Amodio and others found that a specific region of the brain's
>> cortex
>> is more sensitive in people who consider themselves liberals than in
>> self-declared conservatives.
>
> A study involving all of 43 students and with the article not
> reporting how many classified themselves in each category. Shows only
> the statistical ignorance of anyone who would take that seriously.
>
> Of course the subjects were also college students who had not yet
> matured in their thinking, another likely cause of skewed results.
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Author: hal lillywhitehal lillywhite Date: Sep 11, 2007 14:00
ClassWarz wrote:
>> Anyone who claims that conservatives are less capable of deep thinking
>> than are liberals is likely himself guilty of superficial thinking.
> I don't see "deep thinking" coming from today's conservatives, sorry...all I
> see is "follow-the-leader."
Depends on which conservatives you look at. Buckley, Sowell etc.
certainly think deeper than a lot on the left. In fact many leftists
are quite as eager to play "follow the leader: as anyone on the
right. Just look at how many claim that Bush planned and carried out
9-11, and how many ignore the news organization studies that showed a
Bush victory in Florida in 2000 so they can claim Gore really won.
The majority on both sides of the political spectrum fail to think
very deeply. However many "intellectuals" on the left are the leaders
of the groupthink crowd, as Sokal shows in the book I mentioned.
> The article does say that the so-called "far left," i.e. the Communists, are
> as rigid in their thinking as the conservatives. Actually, I agree with
> Orwell's thesis: Communism = Nazism. So, I find that the Communists are
> very right-wing in practice, despite their phony pro-worker rhetoric.
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Date: Sep 11, 2007 14:10
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:00:55 -0700, hal lillywhite juno.com>
wrote:
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>ClassWarz wrote:
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>>> Anyone who claims that conservatives are less capable of deep thinking
>>> than are liberals is likely himself guilty of superficial thinking.
>
>> I don't see "deep thinking" coming from today's conservatives, sorry...all I
>> see is "follow-the-leader."
>
>Depends on which conservatives you look at. Buckley, Sowell etc.
>certainly think deeper than a lot on the left....
There are Deep Thinkers on the left and there are Deep Thinkers on the
right.
There is no comparative sense of which is Deeper
-- only a sense that
one sort might agree with you more than the other. That's a comment
on You -- not on those doing the thinking.
Ideological agreement is not a qualitative comparative.
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Author: Jeff DegeJeff Dege Date: Sep 11, 2007 15:31
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:50:46 -0700, hal lillywhite wrote:
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> Of course the subjects were also college students who had not yet
> matured in their thinking, another likely cause of skewed results.
Sounds to me like the liberals simply hadn't grown up, yet.
--
We won't dispassionately investigate or rationally debate which drugs
do what damage and whether or how much of that damage is the result
of criminalization. We'd rather work ourselves into a screaming fit of
puritanism and then go home and take a pill.
- P.J. O'Rourke
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Author: hal lillywhitehal lillywhite Date: Sep 11, 2007 20:12
Don Homuth wrote:
>>> I don't see "deep thinking" coming from today's conservatives, sorry...all I
>>> see is "follow-the-leader."
>>Depends on which conservatives you look at. Buckley, Sowell etc.
>>certainly think deeper than a lot on the left....
> There are Deep Thinkers on the left and there are Deep Thinkers on the
> right.
Perhaps but I've yet to see any deep thinker from the left deal with
the issue of how statism reduces incentives, interferes with freedom
etc. Nor have I seen any of them address the problem that control
economies tend to produce a surplus only of misery while market
economies are typically plagued with more goods than the people can
use.
Nor am I aware of any large group on the right producing the sort of
drivel described in _Fashionable Nonsense_ and being regarded as
intelligent for writing that garbage.
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Author: Date: Sep 11, 2007 21:54
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:31:33 -0000, Jeff Dege jdege.visi.com>
mumbled:
>On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:50:46 -0700, hal lillywhite wrote:
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>> Of course the subjects were also college students who had not yet
>> matured in their thinking, another likely cause of skewed results.
>
>Sounds to me like the liberals simply hadn't grown up, yet.
Do not hold breath waiting.
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Author: CarlSwansonCarlSwanson Date: Sep 12, 2007 04:32
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:00:55 -0700, hal lillywhite juno.com>
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>ClassWarz wrote:
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>>> Anyone who claims that conservatives are less capable of deep thinking
>>> than are liberals is likely himself guilty of superficial thinking.
>
>> I don't see "deep thinking" coming from today's conservatives, sorry...all I
>> see is "follow-the-leader."
It is worse than that. When the Republican convention was in NYC..
attendees were asked how they stay informed....few read
newspapers..most watched Fox News almost
exclusivley...NONE...scientific sample of twelve...read books.
There is follow the money.... and there is ...follow those who read.
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Author: CarlSwansonCarlSwanson Date: Sep 12, 2007 04:33
>On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:00:55 -0700, hal lillywhite juno.com>
>wrote:
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>>ClassWarz wrote:
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>>>> Anyone who claims that conservatives are less capable of deep thinking
>>>> than are liberals...
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Author: CarlSwansonCarlSwanson Date: Sep 12, 2007 04:35
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:31:33 -0000, Jeff Dege jdege.visi.com>
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>On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:50:46 -0700, hal lillywhite wrote:
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>> Of course the subjects were also college students who had not yet
>> matured in their thinking, another likely cause of skewed results.
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>Sounds to me like the liberals simply hadn't grown up, yet.
and that smartass, grade school mentality remark.... boys and
girls..pretty much rests the case of liberal versus conservative
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