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Author: hpopehpope Date: Aug 17, 2008 16:07
On Aug 17, 3:44 pm, mizon truth.net> wrote:> THE REVOLUTION: A Manifesto
> By Congressman Ron Paul
>
> Preface
>
> Every election cycle we are treated to candidates who promise us
> "change," and 2008 has been no different. But in the American
> political lexicon, "change" always means more of the same: more
> government, more looting of Americans, more inflation, more police-
> state measures, more unnecessary war, and more centralization of
> power.
>
> Real change would mean something like the opposite of those things. It
> might even involve following our Constitution. And that's the one
> option Americans are never permitted to hear.
>
> Today we are living in a fantasy world. Our entitlement programs are
> insolvent: in a couple of decades they will face a shortfall amounting
> to tens of trillions of dollars. Meanwhile, the housing bubble is ...
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Author: i_hate_gwbushi_hate_gwbush Date: Aug 17, 2008 16:26
> On Aug 17, 3:44 pm, mizon truth.net> wrote:
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>>> THE REVOLUTION: A Manifesto
>> By Congressman Ron Paul
>
>> Preface
>
>> Every election cycle we are treated to candidates who promise us
>> "change," and 2008 has been no different. But in the American
>> political lexicon, "change" always means more of the same: more
>> government, more looting of Americans, more inflation, more police-
>> state measures, more unnecessary war, and more centralization of
>> power.
>
>> Real change would mean something like the opposite of those things. It
>> might even involve following our Constitution. And that's the one
>> option Americans are never permitted to hear. ...
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Author: DBDB Date: Aug 17, 2008 17:47
> Anyone who would seek to take away ANY of your rights, liberties, and
freedoms have lost ALL of theirs as a result.
> Now THAT is what the founders of this proud nation had in mind... but
somehow we have gotten very far from that. As time creeps along,
rights, liberties, and freedoms have slowly been eroded.
Liberties and Freedoms are gone for men that are forced into paying
extortionate high rates of Child Support otherwise known as hidden Alimony.
The government now has a license to create 2nd class citizens and seize hard
earned professional licenses and bank accounts of men that can't pay these
high rates or continue to pay when their jobs disappear. The government
dictates and owns all who are divorced with children!!!!
Freedom in America is gone and the politicians want us to fight for other
country's Freedom!
We are nothing but Frauds that have squandered away our freedoms to self
serving politicians.
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/16/congress-tags-child-support-as-luxury-income.../
Congress Tags Child Support as Luxury Income; Collection System an Economic
Failure
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Author: DBDB Date: Aug 18, 2008 20:55
comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2g3ja4dh628uhmuvcgbu5gudc3mneh432f@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:47:44 -0700, "DB" netscape.net> wrote:
>>>
>>Liberties and Freedoms are gone for men that are forced into paying
>>extortionate high rates of Child Support otherwise known as hidden
>>Alimony.
>>The government now has a license to create 2nd class citizens and seize
>>hard
>>earned professional licenses and bank accounts of men that can't pay these
>>high rates or continue to pay when their jobs disappear. The government
>>dictates and owns all who are divorced with children!!!!
>
>
> You want life without responsibility. Don't confuse freedom and lack
> of responsibility.
Dictating responsibility is no freedom at all. Did your fathers die for the
rights of the State to rule your lives?
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Author: The TruckerThe Trucker Date: Aug 18, 2008 22:36
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:55:25 -0700, DB wrote:
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> comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:2g3ja4dh628uhmuvcgbu5gudc3mneh432f@4ax.com...>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:47:44 -0700, "DB" netscape.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>Liberties and Freedoms...
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Author: psyber_operationspsyber_operations Date: Aug 19, 2008 00:01
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:26:08 -0700 (PDT), i_hate_gwb...@ yahoo.com
> wrote:
> >>Anyone who would seek to take away ANY of your rights, liberties, and
>>freedoms have lost ALL of theirs as a result.
>
> So much for free speech and difference of opinion. You're just a
> different breed of fascist with statements like above.
>
> Freedom exists is when it's safe to be unpopular.
you are a punk
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Author: Jeffrey TurnerJeffrey Turner Date: Aug 19, 2008 07:32
DB wrote:
>>On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:47:44 -0700, "DB" netscape.net> wrote:
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>>>>>Liberties and Freedoms are gone for men that are forced into paying
>>>extortionate high rates of Child Support otherwise known as hidden
>>>Alimony.
>>>The government now has a license to create 2nd class citizens and seize
>>>hard
>>>earned professional licenses and bank accounts of men that can't pay these
>>>high rates or continue to pay when their jobs disappear. The government
>>>dictates and owns all who are divorced with children!!!!
>>
>>
>>You want life without responsibility. Don't confuse freedom and lack
>>of responsibility.
>
>
> Dictating responsibility is no freedom at all. ...
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Date: Aug 19, 2008 08:47
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:55:25 -0700, "DB" netscape.net> wrote:
>Dictating responsibility is no freedom at all.
How does Not requiring parental responsibility work for you? Is that
a Special Case when discussing Freedom?
Does Freedom mean No responsibility?
> Did your fathers die for the
>rights of the State to rule your lives?
Interesting question.
When were you born, in relationship to when your father died?
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Author: DBDB Date: Aug 21, 2008 10:05
> The amusing thing is he invokes fathers while trying to evade parental
> responsibility.
What is amusing is Americans dying to bring freedom to another country.
America is a Fraud and the World knows it!
When you speak of Freedom, it's embarrassing.
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Date: Aug 21, 2008 14:36
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> comcast.net> wrote in
>>> The amusing thing is he invokes fathers while trying to evade parental
>> responsibility.
>
> What is amusing is Americans dying to bring freedom to another country.
>
> America is a Fraud and the World knows it!
> When you speak of Freedom, it's embarrassing.
You're just pissed because you found out your real grandfather was a smooth
talking GI with a chocolate bar and a pair of nylons.
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