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Author: simple.language.yahoosimple.language.yahoo Date: Sep 10, 2008 16:23
source: http://www.startribune.com/business/28119524.html?elr=KArksDyycyUtyycyUiD3aPc:_Yyc...
In a landmark settlement that could change the way Muslims are treated
in the workplace, St. Cloud-based Gold'n Plump Inc. has agreed to
allow Somali workers short prayer breaks and the right to refuse
handling pork at its poultry processing facilities.
The federally mediated agreement is among the first in the nation that
requires employers to accommodate the Islamic prayer schedule and the
belief, held by many strict Muslims, that the Qur'an prohibits the
touching and eating of pork products.
"For this group of Americans at this time in our nation's history,
this is a very important outcome," said Joe Snodgrass, a St. Paul
attorney who represented workers in the case.
The agreement follows a year-long examination by the U.S. Equal
Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and a class-action lawsuit
brought in October 2006 on behalf of nine Somali immigrants who worked
at Gold'n Plump's poultry processing plants in Cold Spring, Minn., and
Arcadia, Wis.
An EEOC attorney said both sides have reached a settlement in
principle.
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Author: goldsteingoldstein Date: Sep 10, 2008 17:55
On Sep 10, 5:26Â pm, simple.language.ya...@ gmail.com wrote:
> source:http://lrightsideofleftcoast.blogspot.com/
>
> Comment by Vladimir Val Cymbal:
>
> It is bad enough to allow Muslims to be governed by Sharia Law in the
> United States but to force it on non-Muslims is an outrage of Tsunami
> proportions. Now I have no problem with people worshiping their
> religion as long as that is all it is, which clearly is not as Islam
> demands the submission of all including standing laws. But this is a
> case of trumping our local, state, and constitutional law. If I won’t
> be served pork in a restaurant, market, or cafeteria, it will irritate
> me and most likely I won’t be customer of that place too often after
> that incident. If the owner of that establishment decides not to serve
> pork on his own, hey that’s ok by me. But if it is forced upon him, we
> got a problem and it is beyond me how this can happen. The only
> explanation I can see is, the attorney is greedy and the government
> officials are afraid at best and down right anti-American at worst.
>
> By allowing one part of Sharia Law we are opening the flood door to ...
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Date: Sep 10, 2008 18:11
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:55:48 -0700 (PDT), "goldstein@ nym.hush.com"
nym.hush.com> wrote:
>I am reminded of the proverbial frog in the pot of slowly heated
>water, eventually brought to a boil.
You shouldn't be. This wasn't a life/death matter, or one that placed
anyone in danger. It's a private agreement entirely.
>... The so-called government
This was an agreement between a private employer and employers.
Nothing more -- nothing less. It is Not a government policy and is
not binding on anyone else.
Two parties made a consenting agreement. Under US Labor Law, that's
supposed to be A Good Thing.
>... in Washington seems to keep turning up the heat by giving more rights to
>the invaders and asylum seekers than to Americans and Christians....
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Author: goldsteingoldstein Date: Sep 10, 2008 18:20
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:55:48 -0700 (PDT), "goldst...@ nym.hush.com"
>
> nym.hush.com> wrote:
>>I am reminded of the proverbial frog in the pot of slowly heated
>>water, eventually brought to a boil.
>
> You shouldn't be. Â This wasn't a life/death matter, or one that placed
> anyone in danger. Â It's a private agreement entirely.
>
>>... The so-called government
>
> This was an agreement between a private employer and employers.
> Nothing more -- nothing less. Â It is Not a government policy and is
> not binding on anyone else.
>
> Two parties made a consenting agreement. Â Under US Labor Law, that's
> supposed to be A Good Thing.
>
>>... in Washington seems to keep turning up the heat by giving more rights to ...
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Date: Sep 10, 2008 18:25
Don Homuth wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:55:48 -0700 (PDT), "goldstein@ nym.hush.com"
> nym.hush.com> wrote:
>
>
>> I am reminded of the proverbial frog in the pot of slowly heated
>> water, eventually brought to a boil.
>
> You shouldn't be. This wasn't a life/death matter, or one that placed
> anyone in danger. It's a private agreement entirely.
>
>> ... The so-called government
>
> This was an agreement between a private employer and employers.
> Nothing more -- nothing less. It is Not a government policy and is
> not binding on anyone else.
>
> Two parties made a consenting agreement. Under US Labor Law, that's
> supposed to be A Good Thing.
> ...
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Date: Sep 10, 2008 18:36
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:20:24 -0700 (PDT), "goldstein@ nym.hush.com"
nym.hush.com> wrote:
>> Accomodating some (not all) private requests to accomodate religious
>> practices is hardly unknown. Â And this one clearly was Private. Â It
>> has no precedential application to any other employer out there. Â Only
>> this one.
>>
>> Get a grip here! Â
Two employers may have equally legal but different takes on such
requests. If they cannot reach a mutual accomodation, workers may be
fired, they could go on strike or some sort of legal Impasse be
declared.
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Date: Sep 10, 2008 19:18
> Don Homuth wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:55:48 -0700 (PDT), "goldstein@ nym.hush.com"
>> nym.hush.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I am reminded of the proverbial frog in the pot of slowly heated
>>> water, eventually brought to a boil.
>>
>> You shouldn't be. This wasn't a life/death matter, or one that placed
>> anyone in danger. It's a private agreement entirely.
>>
>>> ... The so-called government
>>
>> This was an agreement between a private employer and employers.
>> Nothing more -- nothing less. It is Not a government policy and is
>> not binding on anyone else.
>>
>> Two parties made a consenting agreement. Under US Labor Law, that's ...
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Author: Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERSSpeeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS Date: Sep 10, 2008 20:11
I think this will backfire on the muzzies as it will just enrage many
americans who will tell their congressmen no more immigration from
muslim countries.
Let them adapt to our customs not us to theirs.
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Author: simple.language.yahoosimple.language.yahoo Date: Sep 11, 2008 04:32
source: http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1138/pub_detail.asp
America is losing the war of ideas against Islamic supremacism today.
Seven years after 9/11, our national leadership and a large group of
our citizenry still do not recognize the ideology of Islamic
supremacism that provides the basis for Jihadist actions. This lack of
focus in the war of ideas has led to leaders calling for a war on
"extremism," and led to tactical debates that refuse to acknowledge
the identity of the enemy that our leaders claim to be fighting...
Every one of us who values equality and liberty has a role and an
obligation in this war against Islamic supremacism and Jihad. No
matter who you are, no matter how busy you are, no matter how many
other responsibilities you have, this is your war on Jihad.
None of us have a choice in this fight. This war is not an option for
us; it is not something we can do when we have nothing else to do.
Good intentions are not enough. Our nation, our people are at total
war in a battle for the very values on which America was founded. We
can't expect "ordinary lives" during this war. But we can work to give
such hope to the next generation.
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