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>> On Mar 11, 10:51 am, Billy getthe.net> wrote:

>>> Hyme, you don't read too good. White people started the Iraqi war. White
>>> people started a war in Afghanistan that should have been a police
>>> action. White people run Wall Street. White people control what you eat,
>>> hear, and read. It is white people who listen to your phone calls and
>>> read your e-mails.

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>>> Poverty by
>>> race:http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/income_weal..
>>> .
>>> 05647.html

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>>> Crime Stats:http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_43.html

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>>> OK. What does it mean to you? Do we have information on how many left
>>> handed perps there were, how about green eyed? How about people who eat
>>> pork rinds, comb their hair on the right, eat garlic, or are Protestant?
>>> Dumb questions? So is skin color. What makes you think skin color makes
>>> people criminal.

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>>> The argument boils down to nature or nurture. Since all humans are the
>>> same species, we are all social animals that depend on adults when we
>>> are born. We eat the same types of food, and any biologist or geneticist
>>> will tell you there is no physical or psychological difference between
>>> people bases on skin color. Rome was a civilization for 1000 years, and
>>> they never noted differences between people bases on skin color. Free
>>> men came in all different colors as did slaves.

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>>> Police Crimes

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>>> In Jena a white boy,Matt Windham, assalted three black boys with a shot
>>> gun. The black boys took it away from him, where upon Matt Windham
>>> claimed he was robbed. Same town, Mychal Bell, 17 was accussed of
>>> assault with a deadly weapon, his shoe.
>>> ------------http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n15_v92/ai_197229
>>> 25

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>>> White police accused of sexually brutalizing black man with toilet
>>> plunger - New York, NY
>>> Sept 1, 1997  

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>>> A Haitian immigrant who was arrested in a nightclub fight in New York
>>> accused White officers of taking him into a station house bathroom and
>>> sexually brutalizing him with the handle of a toilet plunger.

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>>> "They said, `Take this, nigger,' and stuck the stick in my rear end,"
>>> said 30-year-old Abner Louima in an interview from the hospital, where
>>> he was listed in critical condition after surgery to repair a puncture
>>> in his small intestine and an injury to his bladder.

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>>> The investigation into Louima's arrest intensified after doctors
>>> confirmed that the injuries appeared to have been caused by a blunt
>>> instrument.

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>>> Officer Justin Volpe, 25, surrendered to internal affairs and was
>>> charged with aggravated sexual abuse and first degree assault, police
>>> officials said. Officer Charles Schwarz was charged with first degree
>>> assault.

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>>> Also arrested were Officers Thomas Bruder and Thomas Wiese, who were
>>> each charged with assault and criminal possession of a weapon -- a
>>> police radio with which he and Wiese allegedly beat Louima in their
>>> patrol car.

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>>> The NY Daily News reported that Louima identified two of the officers
>>> from photographs shown to him in his hospital bed.

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>>> "The alleged conduct involved is reprehensible, done by anyone at
>>> anytime," said Mayor Rudolph Giuliani. "Allegedly done by police
>>> officers, it's even more reprehensible."

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>>> -----------http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/nyregion/26cops.html

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>>> Police Kill Man After a Queens Bachelor Party
>>> Robert Stolarik for The New York Times

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>>> Police officers investigated the scene of the shootings that killed Sean
>>> Bell.

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>>> By ROBERT D. McFADDEN
>>> Published: November 26, 2006

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>>> Remarks by Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly (Microsoft Word Document)
>>> Associated Press/Adam Rountree

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>>> Top, Sean Bell with his fiancée, Nicole Paultre, whom he was to marry
>>> yesterday. Mr. Bell, 23, was shot to death by police after leaving Club
>>> Kalua, above.

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>>> Hours before he was to be married, a man leaving his bachelor party at a
>>> strip club in Queens that was under police surveillance was shot and
>>> killed early yesterday in a hail of police bullets, witnesses and the
>>> police said. Two of his friends were wounded, one critically, they said.

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>>> Many details of the shooting were not immediately clear, but relatives
>>> of the dead man, Sean Bell, 23, and community leaders, including the
>>> Rev. Al Sharpton, demanded an investigation into what some called an
>>> overreaction by officers that killed a man on his wedding day.

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>>> Witnesses told of chaos, screams and a barrage of gunfire near Club
>>> Kalua at 143-08 94th Avenue in Jamaica about 4:15 a.m. after Mr. Bell
>>> and his friends walked out and got into their car. Mr. Bell drove the
>>> car half a block, turned a corner and struck a black unmarked police
>>> minivan bearing several plainclothes officers.

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>>> Mr. Bell1s car then backed up onto a sidewalk, hit a storefront1s
>>> rolled-down protective gate and nearly struck an undercover officer
>>> before shooting forward and slamming into the police van again, the
>>> police said.

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>>> In response, five police officers fired at least 50 rounds at the men1s
>>> car, a silver Nissan Altima; the bullets ripped into other cars and
>>> slammed through an apartment window near the shooting scene on Liverpool
>>> Street near 94th Avenue.

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>>> Mr. Bell Ð who was to have been wed at 5 p.m. yesterday to Nicole
>>> Paultre, 22, the mother of his two small daughters Ð was shot in the
>>> neck, shoulder and right arm and was taken to Jamaica Hospital Medical
>>> Center, where he was pronounced dead.

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>>> The two wounded men, Joseph Guzman, 31, and Trent Benefield, 23, were
>>> taken to Mary Immaculate Hospital, where Mr. Guzman was listed in
>>> critical condition and Mr. Benefield in stable condition.

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>>> Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly said at a news conference last
>>> night that the men1s car had been hit at least 21 times. He said he did
>>> not know what triggered the shooting and that it was too early to tell
>>> if it was justified. No guns were found at the scene, and no charges
>>> have been filed against the men, the police said.

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>>> Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said in a statement last night that it was
>>> too early to draw conclusions about the case. 3We know that the N.Y.P.D.
>>> officers on the scene had reason to believe an altercation involving a
>>> firearm was about to happen and were trying to stop it,2 he said.

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>>> Angry relatives of Mr. Guzman and Mr. Benefield charged that both had
>>> been arrested and manacled to their hospital beds.

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>>> The police acknowledged that the men had been handcuffed, but said it
>>> had been a precaution at a time when it was unclear whether they were
>>> armed. Through the day, the police gave few details about what had
>>> happened, calling it a matter under investigation.

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>>> Mr. Kelly acknowledged last night that much about the episode was
>>> unclear, partly because police investigators are precluded for now from
>>> questioning the officers involved; a lieutenant and another officer who
>>> did not fire any shots were questioned, though.

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>>> In a statement, Commissioner Kelly said that about 4 a.m. a group of men
>>> confronted a man outside the strip club and that one man in the group
>>> yelled, 3Yo, get my gun.2

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>>> The altercation broke up, and the men separated into two groups, with an
>>> undercover officer following one group. The men being followed by the
>>> undercover officer got into the Altima that then hit the minivan.

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>>> The police said that one officer who leaped from the minivan, a 12-year
>>> police veteran, fired 31 times, and an undercover officer with nine
>>> years on the force fired 11 times. The other officers fired three, four
>>> and five times. Shell casings from the officers1 16-shot, 9-millimeter
>>> semiautomatic weapons littered the street; at least 40 were later
>>> recovered. A fourth person may have been in the Altima, police said.

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>>> Legal experts said that investigators, at the behest of prosecutors,
>>> almost never interrogate officers involved in fatal shootings, even if
>>> criminal conduct is suspected, because doing so might grant a form of
>>> immunity and jeopardize prosecutions.

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>>> The Queens district attorney, Richard A. Brown, declined last night to
>>> comment on the substance of the case, but promised a 3full, fair and
>>> complete investigation.2

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>>> The shootings reverberated with echoes of the 1999 police shooting of
>>> Amadou Diallo, an unarmed street vendor and Guinean immigrant who was
>>> killed in the vestibule of his Bronx apartment by four police officers
>>> who were later acquitted of criminal charges in his death. That killing
>>> raised questions of racial profiling and excessive force by the police.

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>>> One police official denied any racial motivation in yesterday1s shooting
>>> and said that two of the officers involved were white, one Hispanic and
>>> two black. The victims were either black or Hispanic. None of the
>>> officers had been involved in previous shootings, Mr. Kelly said. He
>>> said several officers were injured, but none seriously.

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>>> Mr. Sharpton, a civil rights leader who has often protested police
>>> actions in high-profile and racially charged cases, challenged the
>>> police to explain what had happened.

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>>> 3This is a shocking case,2 he said at an afternoon news conference
>>> outside Mary Immaculate Hospital, his second of the day in the case. He
>>> was flanked by relatives and friends of the victims, most of them somber
>>> and some sobbing.

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>>> Mr. Sharpton said Mr. Guzman might have been struck by anywhere from 8
>>> to 17 bullets. 3The doctor told us it was 17 wounds,2 which could have

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