> On Nov 8, 3:31 pm, Grizzlie Antagonist yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>

>> On Nov 8, 8:14 am, Masculist gmail.com> wrote:

>

>>> On Nov 7, 10:48 am, Grizzlie Antagonist yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:

>

>>>> On Nov 7, 9:32 am, Masculist gmail.com> wrote:

>

>>>>> On Nov 7, 9:13 am, Grizzlie Antagonist yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:

>

>>>>>> On Nov 7, 8:16 am, Masculist gmail.com> wrote:

>

>>>>>>> On Nov 5, 2:59 pm, Grizzlie Antagonist yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:

>

>>>>>>>> On Nov 5, 11:11 am, Masculist gmail.com> wrote:

>

>>>>>>>>> On Nov 4, 11:33 pm, Grizzlie Antagonist yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>

>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2:07 pm, George Orwell wrote:

>

>>>>>>>>>>> Nov 4, 2007 -RonPaul- Our Last Chance -
>>>>>>>>>>> I have met and spoken with Dr.Paul, Texas Congressman, and found him to be the real
>>>>>>>>>>> deal: thoughtful, considerate and passionate about making real change in America -
>>>>>>>>>>> our America!
>>>>>>>>>>> If elected,RonPaulwill end the Iraq war.
>>>>>>>>>>> If elected,RonPaulwill reduce government.
>>>>>>>>>>> If elected,RonPaulwill eliminate deficit spending.
>>>>>>>>>>> If elected,RonPaulwill restore our civil liberties.
>>>>>>>>>>> You have my word on it.

>

>>>>>>>>>> What are "civil liberties" anyway? What do you do with them?

>

>>>>>>>>>> Smoke dope? Why is it that every time the libertarians wrap
>>>>>>>>>> themselves in the Constitution, it's just a coded message for "we
>>>>>>>>>> wanna smoke dope and smoke meth and party"?

>

>>>>>>>>> We

>

>>>>>>>> "We"? Who's "we"?

>

>>>>>>> Sane Masculist's like myself.

>

>>>>>>>> You and remarksman sharing the same bed again?

>

>>>>>>>> I guess it's better than another night on a park bench.

>

>>>>>>> Remarksman lives on the prairie like you do surrounded by cows and
>>>>>>> rednecks. Poor boys.

>

>>>>>> Poor cows!

>

>>>>>>>> I thought that you believed in God and had contempt for those who
>>>>>>>> don't.

>

>>>>>>> Don't project. I don't have contempt for anyone. BTW, what does God
>>>>>>> have to do with Temperance Repubs like you and your War Against Men
>>>>>>> using Drug Laws?

>

>>>>>> What does God have to do with "Sex, Drugs, and Rock & Roll"?

>

>>>>> "Sex" is the operative word here in regard to G-d. That's what your
>>>>> feminists and their rich Repub sugar daddies get lots of.

>

>>>> What do the poor sugar daddies get?

>

>>> Sex, admiration and power.

>

>> What? That's more than you said that the rich ones get!

>
> I misread your question. I didn't see the word "poor". There's no
> such thing as a "poor sugar daddy".

>>>> I guess that Jerry Rubin wasn't getting enough as a hippie since he
>>>> later sought to become a rich sugar daddy himself.

>

>>> At least he was honest about it. Other Marxists became sold out
>>> slaves of the feminists in the media and academy.

>

>> I understand, and you prefer Marxists who remain Marxists and who
>> don't "sell out" at all.

>
> Few of us cared for that stupid Marxist shit

> but all of us cared for
> freedom.

> The Marxist leaders sold our freedom out to the counter
> insurgent feminists. Actually, by the Sixties the Marxists were so
> heavily infiltrated that they were mostly counter insurgents
> themselves working for the Man.

>>>>>> What
>>>>>> does God have to do with "Tune In, Turn On, Drop Out Now"?

>

>>>>> I just read the new bio out on Leary. He was a good Catholic boy.

>

>>>> Yeah, and Fidel Castro was a professional baseball player. But
>>>> people CHANGE, dumbfuck!

>

>>> Now, now GA, no need to get abusive here.

>

>> Yes, as a matter of fact, there is a need to get abusive.

>
> Maybe for bitter folks like yourself.
>

>>> Leary's Catholicism was > an
>>> essential part of who he was

>

>> Really? How come he hasn't been canonized? How many audiences did he
>> have with the Pope while he was alive?

>
> Does one have to visit the Pope to be a "good Catholic boy"?

>>> and he was consistently a good
>>> Christian. He had his problems in the sex area like many of us do so
>>> I guess his drug usage really didn't do as much for him as it should
>>> have ...dumbfuck!

>

>> Timothy Leary was the Michael Jackson of his time -- an evil Pied
>> Piper leading kids to the wrong end.

>
> Comparing Leary with Jackson destroys your case. Leary was also in
> West Point but dropped out the semester before he graduated. The guy
> was a powerhouse WAY ahead of his time. It's true that he's an easy
> target, and shit heads like you in support of the status quo man
> hating routine for political gain will surely try to demean and
> suppress his importance in history.

> You talk a good line but you
> support everything that is oppressing men...just like every good pussy
> boy Republican

>>>>> In
>>>>> this secular feminist Republic, it was good advice. You opted to get
>>>>> a law degree and become a part of it.

>

>>>> What did you intend to do with your nurse's license?

>

>>> I nursed on and off for 30 years without a license. My first job was
>>> when doing my conscientious objector work during Vietnam. I never
>>> intended to make a career of it and in fact didn't. My main work was
>>> in psychological fields like mental health and with developmental
>>> disabilities, with the latter ending up to be my greatest body of work
>>> and my forte.

>

>>> What did I intend to do when I started out? I wanted "wisdom". Paid
>>> in full.

>

>> Oh sure, and by "wisdom" you mean drug-induced hallucinations about
>> CIA agents plotting to kill JFK because he wasn't feminist enough for
>> them and DT's about the Left really being the Right in disguise.

>
> You have to admit GA, you Repubs produced a much needed grass roots
> movement by covertly supporting feminism. In fact you were dead in
> the water without it by the early Seventies. Nixon and the
> Rockefellors knew what they were doing and what they were facing
> without a feminist counter insurgency. So they funded feminism and
> had their Court do "Roe-Wade". Bingo, they were back in the game! An
> accident you say? I know better.

>>>>>>>> When did you decide that you were a libertarian?

>

>>>>>>> 1985. I undecided in '95.

>

>>>>>>>> Talk about a
>>>>>>>> godless movement. Libertarians don't believe in the worship of
>>>>>>>> anything higher than themselves and their petty inclinations.

>

>>>>>>> It was sort of shallow.

>

>>>>>>>>> want an end to temperance oppression of men, something you girlie
>>>>>>>>> boy Repubs support. It will also end the corruption, crime and lack
>>>>>>>>> of respect for the law that the drug war has > produced.

>

>>>>>>>> You want sex, drugs, and rock and roll and you want the offspring born
>>>>>>>> of your Woodstock lifestyle to become public charges -- or should I
>>>>>>>> say to continue to become public charges.

>

>>>>>>> I signed off of "Woodstack Nation" when Nixon and you guys put the
>>>>>>> feminist's in charge of us on the Left in '72.

>

>>>>>> Yeah, almost thirty years before "we" set off explosives inside the
>>>>>> World Trade Center. You stupid fuck!

>

>>>>>>>> While you hippies are off blowing your minds, the "squares" are paying
>>>>>>>> for your upkeep and you want that gravy train to grow bigger.

>

>>>>>>> Oh yeah this is a real comfy life I'm living.

>

>>>>>> You're living it at someone else's expense, and obviously, you've
>>>>>> decided that it's better than no life at all

>

>>>>> I beg your pardon. I earn $10 a day elbowing ahead of illegal Mexican
>>>>> women and their kids for bottles and cans.

>

>>>> Who would buy a bottle or can that you've handled?

>

>>> Now GA, was that necessary? Did I say something that pissed you off?
>>> Why not tell me directly instead of all this passive aggressive stuff?

>

>> Yes, it was necessary, and you're the one doing the passive aggressive
>> stuff. You're the one -- the male nurse -- who uses expressions such
>> as "girlie Republicans" and "pussy conservatives" and all that other
>> shit.

>
> Well, that was only because I was talking to you and the shoe fit.

>> And what's the definition of manhood that you think holds you up as a
>> shining example of it? The fact that you blow your mind on drugs and
>> suffer delirium tremens from it. And instead of being honest and
>> regarding them as DT's, you try to disguise them as a political
>> philosophy.

>

>> You're the town lunatic expecting to be regarded as a visionary.

>
> How many visionaries haven't been considered lunatics?

>>>> I don't believe it anyway. I think that someone is paying your
>>>> bills. Which means that you're the one with suspicious connections.

>

>>> I don't lie Griz.

>

>> Yes, you do.

>
> Now you're lying.
>
>
>

>>>> Your son reminded me of every snotty middle-class kid that I've ever
>>>> met. No one could possibly think that his father raised him on the
>>>> streets.

>

>>> Yes, I did raise him on the streets as well as his sister. This is a
>>> fact. Their mother however was living in apartments during that whole
>>> time and she had custody and I visitation. When the kids were young I
>>> would take them both days on the weekend from 9AM until dark. I had a
>>> car and we would just tool around town all day. Later when I didn't
>>> have a car I would ride my bike ten miles to town, pick them up and
>>> then walk two miles to downtown where we would shop all day without
>>> money! We had a blast and I trsure those memories. On holidays I
>>> would go to Santa Cruz with them and spend it with a friend who had a
>>> son my daughter's age and was also divorced. He was an emergency room
>>> doctor and lived well. I think between him and my ex's psych
>>> professor parents they got the idea they were upper middle class and
>>> old dad was a struggling artist. My homelessness was largely due to
>>> my autism project and I worked it diligently the whole time. Only now
>>> is it winding down.

>

>>> Want to know any more GA?

>

>> It's all bullshit.

>
> It's the truth but you can't handle the truth
>

>> I've met your son, and he barely knows who you are. Those
>> "memories" that you say that you treasure aren't his memories at all
>> -- because those events never occurred anyway.

>

>> Your son's attitude doesn't make him any different from millions of
>> other middle-class kids around the country who are fooling around with
>> their Game Boy sets and their I-Pods and their myspace web pages and
>> who regard the adult world in general -- and their parents in
>> particular -- as total and complete strangers.

>

>> That might have been what I was like when I was his age and I KNOW
>> that's what my younger brother and sister were like then -- except
>> those toys weren't available to us.

>

>> But still...if you'd forged the types of bonds with him that you
>> describe, he wouldn't take you for granted today. Again, the kid that
>> I met was a kid with a typical spoiled middle-class ethos who barely
>> knew who his father was.

>
> What kid 14 years old knows who his father is?

> Especially in Amerika
> with childless idiots like yourself criminalizing them, sending them
> to war and ripping their kids off and giving them to the government or
> mom to be further alienated from their fathers?

> My son is as good a son as a father could wish for even in this anti-
> father and man shithole of Amerika. He's in college now and loves and
> respects his dad.

> Recently he wrote a paper on feminism that was so
> good I wanted to show it here and other places, but he doesn't want it
> published.

> Now if you would have had kids...what a disaster that would have
> been. Again, stop projecting.

> Smitty