> On Nov 8, 8:14 am,Masculistgmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Nov 7, 10:48 am, Grizzlie Antagonist yahoo.com>
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>>> On Nov 7, 9:32 am,Masculistgmail.com> wrote:

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>>>> On Nov 7, 9:13 am, Grizzlie Antagonist yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:

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>>>>> On Nov 7, 8:16 am,Masculistgmail.com> wrote:

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>>>>>> On Nov 5, 2:59 pm, Grizzlie Antagonist yahoo.com>
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>>>>>>> On Nov 5, 11:11 am,Masculistgmail.com> wrote:

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>>>>>>>> On Nov 4, 11:33 pm, Grizzlie Antagonist yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:

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>>>>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2:07 pm, George Orwell wrote:

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>>>>>>>>>> Nov 4, 2007 -RonPaul- Our Last Chance -
>>>>>>>>>> I have met and spoken with Dr.Paul, Texas Congressman, and found him to be the real
>>>>>>>>>> deal: thoughtful, considerate and passionate about making real change in America -
>>>>>>>>>> our America!
>>>>>>>>>> If elected,RonPaulwill end the Iraq war.
>>>>>>>>>> If elected,RonPaulwill reduce government.
>>>>>>>>>> If elected,RonPaulwill eliminate deficit spending.
>>>>>>>>>> If elected,RonPaulwill restore our civil liberties.
>>>>>>>>>> You have my word on it.

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>>>>>>>>> What are "civil liberties" anyway? What do you do with them?

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>>>>>>>>> Smoke dope? Why is it that every time the libertarians wrap
>>>>>>>>> themselves in the Constitution, it's just a coded message for "we
>>>>>>>>> wanna smoke dope and smoke meth and party"?

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>>>>>>>> We

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>>>>>>> "We"? Who's "we"?

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>>>>>> SaneMasculist'slike myself.

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>>>>>>> You and remarksman sharing the same bed again?

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>>>>>>> I guess it's better than another night on a park bench.

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>>>>>> Remarksman lives on the prairie like you do surrounded by cows and
>>>>>> rednecks. Poor boys.

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>>>>> Poor cows!

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>>>>>>> I thought that you believed in God and had contempt for those who
>>>>>>> don't.

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>>>>>> Don't project. I don't have contempt for anyone. BTW, what does God
>>>>>> have to do with Temperance Repubs like you and your War Against Men
>>>>>> using Drug Laws?

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>>>>> What does God have to do with "Sex, Drugs, and Rock & Roll"?

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>>>> "Sex" is the operative word here in regard to G-d. That's what your
>>>> feminists and their rich Repub sugar daddies get lots of.

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>>> What do the poor sugar daddies get?

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>> Sex, admiration and power.

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> What? That's more than you said that the rich ones get!
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>>> I guess that Jerry Rubin wasn't getting enough as a hippie since he
>>> later sought to become a rich sugar daddy himself.

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>> At least he was honest about it. Other Marxists became sold out
>> slaves of the feminists in the media and academy.

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> I understand, and you prefer Marxists who remain Marxists and who
> don't "sell out" at all.
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>>>>> What
>>>>> does God have to do with "Tune In, Turn On, Drop Out Now"?

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>>>> I just read the new bio out on Leary. He was a good Catholic boy.

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>>> Yeah, and Fidel Castro was a professional baseball player. But
>>> people CHANGE, dumbfuck!

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>> Now, now GA, no need to get abusive here.

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> Yes, as a matter of fact, there is a need to get abusive.
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>> Leary's Catholicism was > an
>> essential part of who he was

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> Really? How come he hasn't been canonized? How many audiences did he
> have with the Pope while he was alive?
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>> and he was consistently a good
>> Christian. He had his problems in the sex area like many of us do so
>> I guess his drug usage really didn't do as much for him as it should
>> have ...dumbfuck!

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> Timothy Leary was the Michael Jackson of his time -- an evil Pied
> Piper leading kids to the wrong end.
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>>>> In
>>>> this secular feminist Republic, it was good advice. You opted to get
>>>> a law degree and become a part of it.

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>>> What did you intend to do with your nurse's license?

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>> I nursed on and off for 30 years without a license. My first job was
>> when doing my conscientious objector work during Vietnam. I never
>> intended to make a career of it and in fact didn't. My main work was
>> in psychological fields like mental health and with developmental
>> disabilities, with the latter ending up to be my greatest body of work
>> and my forte.

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>> What did I intend to do when I started out? I wanted "wisdom". Paid
>> in full.

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> Oh sure, and by "wisdom" you mean drug-induced hallucinations about
> CIA agents plotting to kill JFK because he wasn't feminist enough for
> them and DT's about the Left really being the Right in disguise.
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>>>>>>> When did you decide that you were a libertarian?

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>>>>>> 1985. I undecided in '95.

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>>>>>>> Talk about a
>>>>>>> godless movement. Libertarians don't believe in the worship of
>>>>>>> anything higher than themselves and their petty inclinations.

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>>>>>> It was sort of shallow.

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>>>>>>>> want an end to temperance oppression of men, something you girlie
>>>>>>>> boy Repubs support. It will also end the corruption, crime and lack
>>>>>>>> of respect for the law that the drug war has > produced.

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>>>>>>> You want sex, drugs, and rock and roll and you want the offspring born
>>>>>>> of your Woodstock lifestyle to become public charges -- or should I
>>>>>>> say to continue to become public charges.

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>>>>>> I signed off of "Woodstack Nation" when Nixon and you guys put the
>>>>>> feminist's in charge of us on the Left in '72.

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>>>>> Yeah, almost thirty years before "we" set off explosives inside the
>>>>> World Trade Center. You stupid fuck!

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>>>>>>> While you hippies are off blowing your minds, the "squares" are paying
>>>>>>> for your upkeep and you want that gravy train to grow bigger.

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>>>>>> Oh yeah this is a real comfy life I'm living.

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>>>>> You're living it at someone else's expense, and obviously, you've
>>>>> decided that it's better than no life at all

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>>>> I beg your pardon. I earn $10 a day elbowing ahead of illegal Mexican
>>>> women and their kids for bottles and cans.

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>>> Who would buy a bottle or can that you've handled?

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>> Now GA, was that necessary? Did I say something that pissed you off?
>> Why not tell me directly instead of all this passive aggressive stuff?

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> Yes, it was necessary, and you're the one doing the passive aggressive
> stuff. You're the one -- the male nurse -- who uses expressions such
> as "girlie Republicans" and "pussy conservatives" and all that other
> shit.
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> And what's the definition of manhood that you think holds you up as a
> shining example of it? The fact that you blow your mind on drugs and
> suffer delirium tremens from it. And instead of being honest and
> regarding them as DT's, you try to disguise them as a political
> philosophy.
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> You're the town lunatic expecting to be regarded as a visionary.
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>>> I don't believe it anyway. I think that someone is paying your
>>> bills. Which means that you're the one with suspicious connections.

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>> I don't lie Griz.

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> Yes, you do.
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>>> Your son reminded me of every snotty middle-class kid that I've ever
>>> met.

>No one could possibly think that his father raised him on the

>>> streets.

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>> Yes, I did raise him on the streets as well as his sister. This is a
>> fact. Their mother however was living in apartments during that whole
>> time and she had custody and I visitation. When the kids were young I
>> would take them both days on the weekend from 9AM until dark. I had a
>> car and we would just tool around town all day. Later when I didn't
>> have a car I would ride my bike ten miles to town, pick them up and
>> then walk two miles to downtown where we would shop all day without
>> money! We had a blast and I trsure those memories. On holidays I
>> would go to Santa Cruz with them and spend it with a friend who had a
>> son my daughter's age and was also divorced. He was an emergency room
>> doctor and lived well. I think between him and my ex's psych
>> professor parents they got the idea they were upper middle class and
>> old dad was a struggling artist. My homelessness was largely due to
>> my autism project and I worked it diligently the whole time. Only now
>> is it winding down.

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>> Want to know any more GA?

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> It's all bullshit.
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> I've met your son, and he barely knows who you are. Those
> "memories" that you say that you treasure aren't his memories at all
> -- because those events never occurred anyway.
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> Your son's attitude doesn't make him any different from millions of
> other middle-class kids around the country who are fooling around with
> their Game Boy sets and their I-Pods and their myspace web pages and
> who regard the adult world in general -- and their parents in
> particular -- as total and complete strangers.
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> That might have been what I was like when I was his age and I KNOW
> that's what my younger brother and sister were like then -- except
> those toys weren't available to us.
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> But still...if you'd forged the types of bonds with him that you
> describe, he wouldn't take you for granted today. Again, the kid that
> I met was a kid with a typical spoiled middle-class ethos who barely
> knew who his father was.
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>>>>>>> That's
>>>>>>> what libertarianism means to you.

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>>>>>>>> Drugs are a
>>>>>>>> public health issue, not a crime issue.

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>>>>>>> In your case, they're a mental health issue.

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>>>>>>>> What's wrong with you GA? Did a hippie
>>>>>>>> steal your girlfriend?

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>>>>>>> What's wrong with you? Did a conservative insult you by offering you
>>>>>>> an honest job?

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>>>>>> No one has offerred me a job and I've been looking.

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>>>>> You've been looking for a J-O-B? You've mean you're trying to join
>>>>> the "establishment"?

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>>>> I've always worked asshole. I worked harder and did more useful work
>>>> in one year than you did in your whole life.

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>>> You probably HAVE always worked

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