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Author: TedTed Date: Oct 25, 2007 04:31
On Oct 24, 7:33 pm, "GeorgeWashingtonAdmi...@ adelphia.com"
aol.com> wrote:> Personally -- and I think increasing numbers of U.S. citizens would
> agree with me -- if the People cannot rehabilitate today's distorted,
> legs-spread-wide-open "America" as AMERICA I'd rather see the
> monstrosity that now passes for "America" -- a "country" in which
> tens of millions of law-flouting foreigners LITERALLY engage in rape
> and plunder daily from coast to coast (killing over 10 citizens per
> day in the process, as per one state senator)-- DESTROYED rather
> than let the Axis of Illegal Aliens & Elites have her permanently.
>
> If the perverted entity still misleadingly known as "America" were
> destroyed, Americans could then START ANEW to create a REAL
> America (America 2.0, if you will), one TRULY loyal to the
> Constitution
> and one which would have as its first job ensuring that the current
> debacle could never, ever happen again.
>
> Although I do not advocate the use of violence (except in reasonable
> self-defense, of course) or the violating of laws I, like tireless ...
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Author: Bob LeChevalierBob LeChevalier Date: Oct 25, 2007 11:54
>On Oct 24, 7:33 pm, "GeorgeWashingtonAdmi...@ adelphia.com"
> aol.com> wrote:>> Fortunately our Forefathers left us great guidance regarding WHAT TO
>> DO.
They erected a statue and put by it these words:
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to
breathe free. I lift my lamp beside the golden door"
>> Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case
>> with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every
>> free state.
>>
>> -- Thomas Jefferson
who of course never served in the Continental Army.
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Author: AvengerAvenger Date: Oct 25, 2007 18:04
> On Oct 24, 7:33 pm, "GeorgeWashingtonAdmi...@ adelphia.com"
> aol.com> wrote:>> Personally -- and I think increasing numbers of U.S. citizens would
>> agree with me -- if the People cannot rehabilitate today's distorted,
>> legs-spread-wide-open "America" as AMERICA I'd rather see the
>> monstrosity that now passes for "America" -- a "country" in which
>> tens of millions of law-flouting foreigners LITERALLY engage in rape
>> and plunder daily from coast to coast (killing over 10 citizens per
>> day in the process, as per one state senator)-- DESTROYED rather
>> than let the Axis of Illegal Aliens & Elites have her permanently.
>>
>> If the perverted entity still misleadingly known as "America" were
>> destroyed, Americans could then START ANEW to create a REAL
>> America (America 2.0, if you will), one TRULY loyal to the
>> Constitution
>> and one which would have as its first job ensuring that the current
>> debacle could never, ever happen again.
>> ...
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Date: Oct 26, 2007 07:40
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 01:04:04 GMT, "Avenger" avengers.co.uk>
wrote:
>>> Although I do not advocate the use of violence (except in reasonable
>>> self-defense, of course)
>
>I do advocate it to remove an oppressive gov't. and is the reason for the
>2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. Besides, it's the only thing that
>works.
Heh! I always just Love it when the Little Wannabee Revolutionaries
get around to discussing what works and what doesn't.
What works is a properly conducted election.
What doesn't is an insurrection and revolution. Those, historically,
tend to eat their young, and what replaces the status quo ante is
seldom if ever an actual improvement.
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Author: Brent PBrent P Date: Oct 26, 2007 07:46
In article 4ax.com>, Don Homuth wrote:
> What works is a properly conducted election.
When was the last time we had one of those?
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Date: Oct 26, 2007 07:52
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:46:20 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@ yahoo.com
(Brent P) wrote:
>In article 4ax.com>, Don Homuth wrote:
>>> What works is a properly conducted election.
>
>When was the last time we had one of those?
They occur all around the nation on a regular basis.
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Author: Brent PBrent P Date: Oct 26, 2007 09:07
In article 4ax.com>, Don Homuth wrote:> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:46:20 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@ yahoo.com
> (Brent P) wrote:
> >>In article 4ax.com>, Don Homuth wrote:
>>>>> What works is a properly conducted election.
>>
>>When was the last time we had one of those?
>
> They occur all around the nation on a regular basis.
Perhaps for dog catcher in podunk, south dakota and similiar.
But in most places around the nation for offices where the power is,
everything from how the districts are drawn to the election laws that
effectively restrict who can run and from what party defy the concept of
'properly conducted'. And that doesn't even get into the voting dead and
new black-box electronic voting that is so easy to cheat with it is if it
were designed for cheating.
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Date: Oct 26, 2007 09:24
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:07:59 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@ yahoo.com
(Brent P) wrote:
>In article 4ax.com>, Don Homuth wrote:>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:46:20 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@ yahoo.com
>> (Brent P) wrote:
>> >>>In article 4ax.com>, Don Homuth wrote:
>>>>>>> What works is a properly conducted election.
>>>
>>>When was the last time we had one of those?
>>
>> They occur all around the nation on a regular basis.
>
>Perhaps for dog catcher in podunk, south dakota and similiar.
For most elections -- to offices high and low.
If some of them come out in ways that You don't care for, them's the
breaks. You were never guaranteed your preferred outcome, and the
lack of it doesn't signify a corrupt election.
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Author: Brent PBrent P Date: Oct 26, 2007 14:31
In article 4ax.com>, Don Homuth wrote:> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:07:59 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@ yahoo.com
> (Brent P) wrote:
> >>In article 4ax.com>, Don Homuth wrote:>>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:46:20 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@ yahoo.com
>>> (Brent P) wrote:
>>> >>>>In article 4ax.com>, Don Homuth wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What works is a properly conducted election.
>>>>
>>>>When was the last time we had one of those?
>>>
>>> They occur all around the nation on a regular basis.
>>
>>Perhaps for dog catcher in podunk, south dakota and similiar.
>
> For most elections -- to offices high and low.
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Date: Oct 26, 2007 14:52
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:31:13 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@ yahoo.com
(Brent P) wrote:
>Try looking at districts and election law some day, especially in a place
>like cook county, IL. It is not done in any way that could be considered
>'fair'.
No -- I don't believe I will. If Cook County, IL has a problem, it is
my considered opinion that it's Their problem, and They should solve
it. Any "solution" that Someone Else from Somewhere might want to
stuff in their collective faces would, because of that bothersome
Constitutional thing doncha know, require some sort of Federal
solution.
Nope. Should be either State or Local, and it's not my problem. I do
my best to deal with my own.
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