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Author: Todd AllcockTodd Allcock Date: Jan 29, 2010 00:11
> In article akit-ferguson.com>,
> Dennis Ferguson pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> At least with the iPhone, if you are desperate to do this anyway you can
>> always take the SIM out of it and put it in another phone with fewer
>> constraints. The iPad's new, improved teeny tiny micro SIM (are they
>> really so space-constrained in there that they had to do that?) won't
>> fit in any existing phone so even that's out now.
>
> There are (or soon will be, if there aren't already) adaptors.
That'll work in one direction- using the iPad SIM in a phone, which AT&T
likely won't allow anyway. I think Dennis' point was the difficulty of
placing the "unlocked" iPad on a non-"partner" carrier. T-Mobile, for
example, right here in the USA doesn't use these SIMs, and likely won't be
anytime soon, so there will be no way to use this "unlocked" device on
another carrier in the USA.
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Author: nospamnospam Date: Jan 29, 2010 00:32
In article , Todd Allcock
AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> That'll work in one direction- using the iPad SIM in a phone, which AT&T
> likely won't allow anyway. I think Dennis' point was the difficulty of
> placing the "unlocked" iPad on a non-"partner" carrier. T-Mobile, for
> example, right here in the USA doesn't use these SIMs, and likely won't be
> anytime soon, so there will be no way to use this "unlocked" device on
> another carrier in the USA.
what makes you think they won't be using them any time soon? here is a
device that *can* work on t-mobile without any hacks. why would they
ignore that?
> The "partner" carriers who also sell the iPad will, of course, but like here
> in the US, that effectively disallows one from competitively pitting
> carriers against each other. If I were, say, the English "partner" carrier,
> I could sell US roamers a uSIM and service at an inflated price (as long as
> it's cheaper than AT&T roaming rates)- far above what I sell "full size"
> SIMs and service for.
they can't compete against one another?
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Author: Todd AllcockTodd Allcock Date: Jan 29, 2010 01:21
"nospam" wrote in message
news:280120101832022756%%nospam@nospam.invalid...
> In article , Todd Allcock
> AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>>> That'll work in one direction- using the iPad SIM in a phone, which AT&T
>> likely won't allow anyway. I think Dennis' point was the difficulty of
>> placing the "unlocked" iPad on a non-"partner" carrier. T-Mobile, for
>> example, right here in the USA doesn't use these SIMs, and likely won't
>> be
>> anytime soon, so there will be no way to use this "unlocked" device on
>> another carrier in the USA.
>
> what makes you think they won't be using them any time soon? here is a
> device that *can* work on t-mobile without any hacks. why would they
> ignore that?
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Author: nospamnospam Date: Jan 29, 2010 01:54
In article <9Sp8n.28206$_96.16329@newsfe02.iad>, Todd Allcock
AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> "nospam" wrote in message
> news:280120101832022756%%nospam@nospam.invalid...
>> In article , Todd Allcock
>> AnoOspamL.com>...
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Author: nospamnospam Date: Jan 29, 2010 03:17
In article nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner michelle.org> wrote:
>> t-mobile is only too happy to support the iphone.
>
> Tell me about it. Those T-Mobile kiosks in the malls are staffed by some
> of the most aggressive salesdroids I've ever encountered. They want to
> convert iPhone owners to T-Mobile
i wandered into a t-mobile store a year ago to check out the then new
g1 android phone. i saw one of the employees playing with not one, but
two iphones. he said they get a lot of customers who want to use it on
t-mobile and they're happy to oblige.
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Author: nospamnospam Date: Jan 29, 2010 03:19
In article nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner michelle.org> wrote:
> I don't see why anyone using an iPad (or an iPhone 3G or 3GS) would want to
> use T-Mobile in the US; their 3G is not compatible with the iPhone's 3G.
> It will work with their 2G, though.
2g that works trumps 3g that doesn't.
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Author: nospamnospam Date: Jan 29, 2010 03:48
In article nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner michelle.org> wrote:
>>> I don't see why anyone using an iPad (or an iPhone 3G or 3GS) would
>>> want to use T-Mobile in the US; their 3G is not compatible with the
>>> iPhone's 3G. It will work with their 2G, though.
>>
>> 2g that works trumps 3g that doesn't.
>
> 3g works around here. And unless I'm mistaken, T-Mobile covers less of the
> country with 3G than AT&T does.
true, but their 3g coverage doesn't matter to iphone/ipad users. their
2g coverage is pretty good and it's not overloaded like at&t's 3g
network, so it might actually end up being faster. might even be priced
lower too, since an ipad user won't ever use 3g.
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Author: SMSSMS Date: Jan 29, 2010 04:14
nospam wrote:
> In article nothing.attdns.com>,
> Michelle Steiner michelle.org> wrote:
> >> I don't see why anyone using an iPad (or an iPhone 3G or 3GS) would want to
>> use T-Mobile in the US; their 3G is not compatible with the iPhone's 3G.
>> It will work with their 2G, though.
>
> 2g that works trumps 3g that doesn't.
Actually, if you look at some of the tests on actual data rates (not
theoretical maximum data rates) often T-Mobile's 2G is not significantly
slower than AT&T's 3G. Of course eventually AT&T will increase their 3G
capacity and that won't be the case anymore. But if T-Mobile offered
unlimited 2G data on the iPad for $15/month they might get a lot of takers.
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Author: Todd AllcockTodd Allcock Date: Jan 29, 2010 08:31
At 28 Jan 2010 19:54:40 -0500 nospam wrote:
>>>> I think Dennis' point was the difficulty of
>>>> placing the "unlocked" iPad on a non-"partner" carrier. T-Mobile,
>>>> for example, right here in the USA doesn't use these SIMs, and
>>...
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Author: Todd AllcockTodd Allcock Date: Jan 29, 2010 08:33
At 28 Jan 2010 18:49:19 -0700 Michelle Steiner wrote:
> "Todd Allcock" AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> >> T-Mobile, for example, right here in the USA doesn't use these SIMs,
and
>> likely won't be anytime soon, so there will be no way to use this
>> "unlocked" device on another carrier in the USA.
>
> I don't see why anyone using an iPad (or an iPhone 3G or 3GS) would
want to
> use T-Mobile in the US; their 3G is not compatible with the iPhone's
3G.
> It will work with their 2G, though.
Yes, I agree users won't beating T-Mo's door down for iPad service
(though it's ben estimated nearly 1,000,000 unlocked iPhones are used on
T-Mo, so 3G seems less important to some people.)
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