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  Explaining the Midwest         


Author: ibshambat2004
Date: Jun 29, 2006 13:40

The society of American Midwest and South has been widely described as
venal and hypocritical. I am here to show the mechanism by which this
outcome is an inevitable consequence of the beliefs held by these
societies.

The belief that a person has to be happy in order to be a legitimate
human being leads people to hide the pain and injustice in their lives.
The people are of the conviction that if they are to let on that
anything's wrong they would be considered invalid human beings; but far
more fundamentally and far more sinisterly, they will be regarded as
traitors. Traitors, that is, to the pretense from which the society at
hand derives its claims of moral legitimacy - the pretense that people
in it are happy; that all things are right and just; and that it is the
Christian paradise on earth.
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  Re: Love and mental jujitsu         


Author: Dennis M. Hammes
Date: Jun 29, 2006 02:56

ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
> When one loves someone passionately, there are many who want to portray
> such a thing as a sin and tell them instead to love everything.
>
> When that is done, someone like Gail Klein (ed. note: poster on another
> group) comes in to say that when one loves everything what one loves is
> really oneself, as according to her ideology everything is reflection
> of self and what one loves when one loves everyone ultimately then is
> oneself.
>
> This attitude she then equates with narcissism.
>
> But you have just said that preferential love is a sin! And then you go
> and say that general love is nothing more than narcissism!
>

Somebody needs to get well and truly laid.
Don't routinely see jealousy like that outside the priesthood.
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  Re: Soccer Idea         


Author: trafficnotice
Date: Jun 28, 2006 18:59

They do that in training.

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:41:23 +1000, "* irenic *" website.com>
wrote:
>Good morning. How many of you have lost some sleep watching the World Cup
>Soccer? I had a novel idea about all that this week. ItÂ’s a shame 22 grown
>men have to chase just one ball: why donÂ’t we provide each team with their
>own ball? Both can be kicked around between the teams at the same time. It
>would be much more exciting, though I guess the referees have a difficult
>enough job as it is!
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  Re: Love and mental jujitsu         


Author: verity
Date: Jun 28, 2006 12:16

ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
> When one loves someone passionately, there are many who want to portray
> such a thing as a sin and tell them instead to love everything.
>
> When that is done, someone like Gail Klein (ed. note: poster on another
> group) comes in to say that when one loves everything what one loves is
> really oneself, as according to her ideology everything is reflection
> of self and what one loves when one loves everyone ultimately then is
> oneself.
>
> This attitude she then equates with narcissism.
>
> But you have just said that preferential love is a sin! And then you go
> and say that general love is nothing more than narcissism!
>
> In light of such manipulations, it becomes requisite then to bring back
> the preferential, passionate, human love, in which one loves someone or
> something outside of oneself, or outside any expanded concept of
> oneself, for their inherent worth and inherent magnificence. To love,
> that is, someone or something that is quite, quite different from ...
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