|
|
 Up |
|
|
  |
Author: jtnospamjtnospam Date: Nov 23, 2006 13:56
Of course it is good for cooking more than once, but many who do it
for Thanksgiving only cook that way once a year. You can look up a
local biodiesel producer on the internet, don't make a special trip and
use more energy than you save, wait until you have an errand to run to
that part of town anyway. (You can store and carry it in the same
container you bought it in.) Or you can pour it into the grease bin
behind a local grill, just don't throw it away. It is usually peanut
oil, which is great feedstock for biodiesel.-Jitney
|
| |
|
| | 16 Comments |
|
|
Author: Al BundyAl Bundy Date: Nov 23, 2006 15:25
> Of course it is good for cooking more than once, but many who do it
> for Thanksgiving only cook that way once a year. You can look up a
> local biodiesel producer on the internet, don't make a special trip and
> use more energy than you save, wait until you have an errand to run to
> that part of town anyway. (You can store and carry it in the same
> container you bought it in.) Or you can pour it into the grease bin
> behind a local grill, just don't throw it away. It is usually peanut
> oil, which is great feedstock for biodiesel.-Jitney
Every little bit helps I guess. Your suggestion of not wasting a trip
is a good one. I think the biodiesel option is more hype than success
though. It needs to be processed quite a bit and mixed with regular
diesel to protect the engines and run properly. The final price is
higher than normal also. You are paying for the "green option." Not
really a "green option" either considering the polution involved. At
least it's using something that might have been wasted.
|
| |
|
| | 3 Comments |
|
|
Author: CarthellCarthell Date: Nov 23, 2006 16:24
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> In 1988, personal computers used to cost almost as much as a small car.
Small, new cars cost $800 then? That was the cost of the first PC I
bought for myself back in 1989.
> Economies of scale changed that. Maybe the same will happen with biodiesel,
> if suppliers see a viable market.
Right up until it competes with the food supply.
-d
|
| |
| no comments |
|
|
Author: FrankFrank Date: Nov 23, 2006 16:26
>
> In 1988, personal computers used to cost almost as much as a small car.
> Economies of scale changed that. Maybe the same will happen with biodiesel,
> if suppliers see a viable market.
Bad analogy. Economics indicate that biodiesel gives out a little more
energy than ethanol from corn but cost will always be tied to
production which takes energy. OTOH if you live in a warm climate, and
have a diesel engine, you can just filter the used oil and put it in
your tank.
Frank
|
| |
| no comments |
|
|
Author: Trygve LillefosseTrygve Lillefosse Date: Nov 24, 2006 01:41
On 23 Nov 2006 15:25:00 -0800, "Al Bundy" mcpmail.com>
wrote:>> Of course it is good for cooking more than once, but many who do it
>> for Thanksgiving only cook that way once a year. You can look up a
>> local biodiesel producer on the internet, don't make a special trip and
>> use more energy than you save, wait until you have an errand to run to
>> that part of town anyway. (You can store and carry it in the same
>> container you bought it in.) Or you can pour it into the grease bin
>> behind a local grill, just don't throw it away. It is usually peanut
>> oil, which is great feedstock for biodiesel.-Jitney
>
>Every little bit helps I guess. Your suggestion of not wasting a trip
>is a good one. I think the biodiesel option is more hype than success...
|
| Show full article (1.74Kb) |
| no comments |
|
|
Author: bigjimbigjim Date: Nov 24, 2006 10:57
$800 is comparable to $2k in 89. A new car could be had for $13k (my
brother bought a shelby daytona turbo z so not a hunday)
Carthell wrote:
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> In 1988, personal computers used to cost almost as much as a small car.
>
> Small, new cars cost $800 then? That was the cost of the first PC I
> bought for myself back in 1989.
>
>> Economies of scale changed that. Maybe the same will happen with biodiesel,
>> if suppliers see a viable market.
>
> Right up until it competes with the food supply.
>
> -d
|
| |
| 1 Comment |
|
|
Author: krwkrw Date: Nov 24, 2006 11:22
> $800 is comparable to $2k in 89.
> A new car could be had for $13k (my
> brother bought a shelby daytona turbo z so not a hunday)
That $13k in 1989 is now the same as $20263.50. A nice car can be
had for that kind of money, particularly after rebates and such.
The 2005 car will last longer and run better too, not to mention
better safety features and creature comforts.
--
Keith
|
| |
| no comments |
|
|
Author: Larry BudLarry Bud Date: Nov 25, 2006 14:43
> $800 is comparable to $2k in 89. A new car could be had for $13k (my
> brother bought a shelby daytona turbo z so not a hunday)
>
Not quite. $800 in 1989 is about $1246 in 2005
See
http://www.westegg.com/inflation/
But that's neither here nor there. The computing power you can buy for
$1246 today is 50 times what it was for the same money in 1989.
|
| |
| no comments |
|
|
Author: SMSSMS Date: Nov 26, 2006 18:29
Al Bundy wrote:
> Every little bit helps I guess. Your suggestion of not wasting a trip
> is a good one. I think the biodiesel option is more hype than success
> though. It needs to be processed quite a bit and mixed with regular
> diesel to protect the engines and run properly. The final price is
> higher than normal also.
I have a friend with a bio-diesel Mercedes that he converted. It costs
him about $1.50 per gallon to make fuel, using free oil from
restaurants. Japanese-run Japanese restaurants are the best, as they
change the oil often for tempura, so it's clean oil.
If you have to buy the bio-diesel fuel it's more expensive, but if you
make it yourself it's cheaper. He does it in his garage. Probably
violates his homeowners insurance policy!
|
| |
| 1 Comment |
|
|
|
|
|
Author: celticsoccelticsoc Date: Nov 27, 2006 21:41
Rod Speed wrote:
> I wasnt talking about corn as a source of veg oil, just as an example
> of a crop that is produced in the first world using industrial scale
> agriculture that doesnt get used in the low labor cost countrys.
The U.S. *is* a low labor cost country when it comes to agriculture.
The labor imports itself from across the border.
|
| |
| 4 Comments |
|
|
|
|
