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Group: microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded · Group Profile
Author: KM
Date: Mar 17, 2007 23:16

Jodie,

It is hard to be guessing what components you might be missing. The list of components required for the dual-up networking is huge.
Also, you said you already gone through the list of components for RRAS I posted long time ago, right?

Thinking about what you've got there I still recommend the following approaches that may help you to narrow down the issue:
1) XPProEmulation image. This should be a prove of concept that it is going to work for you on XPe without major registry
changes.
2) PPP logging. If you enable it (e.g. with the following command: netshrasset tracing PPP enable) you'll find the
log file under %%systemroot%%\tracing folder.
3) Regmon and Filmon tools. Very helpful but sometimes laborious. Btw, you should actually try new ProcessMonitor (the same
sysinternals.com) that combines both tools.
4) DependencyWalker (www.dependencywalker.com), specifically its Profiling feature. You probably should start somewhere around
launching the proper control panel stuff or etc.

--
=========
Regards,
KM

yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1174148633.914336.11050@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> KM, I'm always amazed at how the more I learn about all of this the
> more I realize my own ignorance. Translation: this stuff makes me
> feel like a learned IDIOT.
>
> Anyway, enough self-bashing, to answer your questions:
>
> 1) I'm running SP2+FP2007 (I thought there was a problem so I
> reinstalled and ran the updates again... only to discover that I
> couldn't see most of the components because my visibility was set too
> high... geez, I wish I could afford the &$!!$*#@ classes, but it's
> just not possible)
> 2) I have NOT tried creating an XPPro emulation and didn't know that I
> could do such a thing. I've spent the past three weeks massaging this
> particular image to work with a custom shell and the propietary
> software written by our software development company (who had the
> honor of doing this job before I showed up and made the mistake of
> saying, "Sure, I can learn how to do that. No problem." My father
> was taught, in the Marine Corps, to NEVER VOLUNTEER. Guess it didn't
> pass to this generation... c'mon, laugh with me...)
> 3) The thing is, the firewall component for internet connection
> sharing (ICS) was installed but I didn't add the Control Panel
> component until just this morning.
> 4) I did add far too much, I'll admit. It stopped being precision
> surgery and turned into good old fashioned "shotgun therapy" many days
> ago. I've just been guessing (relatively educated guesses but still
> less-than-confident hail Mary passes... so to speak) and would rather
> be more aware of what the problem really is than accidentally fix it
> and not understand the how/why of it all.
>
> Here's the exact detail that I need to resolve. I'm able to create an
> incoming connection and allow the machine to automatically accept the
> incoming call, verify the login and establish the link. It all boils
> down to the transport (possibly protocol) or networking (maybe the
> same thing). I keep hearing this small voice in my head say that it's
> related to DNS, but that shouldn't matter if I manually set the IP
> addresses of both systems, right? (which I've done) So the question
> is, what will force IP over PPP and allow the systems at both ends to
> recognize each other as being on the same workgroup generated P2P
> network?
>
> Okay, another admission of ignorance (I'm learning quickly, though).
> Do I stand a better chance of doing the process of running regmon,
> filemon and/or sysdiff on the separate installations to find the
> missing link? Even though I've heard of those things, I'm new to all
> of this and have never done it. Which means, stepping up and teaching
> myself how. Which I can do.
>
> Anyway, enough rambling. I do, very sincerely, appreciate all of your
> help and input.
>
> - Jodie
>
> On Mar 16, 6:12 pm, "KM" nospam_yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I must admit Dial-up issues on XPe are always hard to investigate. The reason is that that particular part of the XPe (XPPro)
>> stack
>> has NOT been componentized in the granularity we'd want.
>>
>> Anyway, a couple of ideas and questions:
>> 1) What build you are playing with? SP1, SP2, SP2+FP2007?
>> 2) Since XP Pro shows the right results there, did you try creating XPProEmulation image for the target for testing purposes
>> to
>> see if the issue is indeed there because of a missing component(s)? (XPProEmulation image you can find onwww.xpefiles.com, highly
>> recommend only use the latest FP2007's version)
>> 3) Make sure to turn OFF the firewall on your XPe image. I don't really think this is your problem but just in case it was
>> worth
>> to mention.
>> 4) For all the networking connection you have set up on your XPe image (incoming, LAN, etc.) go to the properties and remove
>> all
>> the protocols and clients you don't really need. Often on big fat XPe image, since you might have unintentionally added some
>> components in your image like Novel client, IPX protocol and etc., you may see how many objects are linked to particular network
>> adapter that you don't need and never wanted. Remove those unnecessary protocols, clients and services and re-test.
>>
>> --
>> =========
>> Regards,
>> KM
>>
>>
>>
>>> I've reviewed the post from KM about the primary components needed to
>>> enable dial-up in XPe but, after verifying I've got every component
>>> (except Dial-Up Server Q318138, which isn't listed in my components in
>>> Target Designer but IS in the Component Designer) I'm still having a
>>> problem. When I run XP Pro on the very same machine (different HDD)
>>> I'm able to dial in to the target system and navigate the hard drive
>>> just as though I'm connected through our LAN. However, with XPe
>>> installed and RAS set up it answers the phone and establishes the
>>> connection but I can't ping the system nor see it or any of it's
>>> contents (the funny thing is it drops the LAN connection, too, until I
>>> disconnect the remote computer, flush the DNS and repair the
>>> connection). So, I'm assuming that it's not using the correct
>>> connection protocol or some other networking component that I've left
>>> out. I've tried to fix this for over a week (I wish I was
>>> exaggerating here, folks) and haven't had any success. Please let me
>>> know any suggestions or if I can provide, or even find, more
>>> information that will help. I really am at the end of my rope (the
>>> one they tie me to my desk with) and don't have anywhere else to turn.
>>
>>> Does anyone have any idea what I can do?
>>
>>> Love and light.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
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