HEMI-Powered wrote:
> Today, TOM7601 made these interesting comments ...
>
>> HEMI-Powered wrote:
>>
>> Snips...
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>>> Well, since we're talking about the genre of priii, how do
>>> owners dispose of the old batteries, in the ground water of a
>>> land-fill?
>> From the Toyota site:
>>
>> "Hybrid-Related Component Coverage: Prius' hybrid-related
>> components, including the HV battery, battery control
>> module, hybrid control module and inverter with converter,
>> are covered for 8 years/100,000 miles."
>
> Being covered for 8/100 is an EPA requirement and NOT a
> prediction or warranty of any kind for its actual life. ALL
> emissions components of ALL vehicles imported into the U.S. or
> built here MUST carry at least this much. So, what this means is
> that if a state wants to do annual or semi-annual safety or
> emissions inspections or certifications, and a Prius fails,
> Toyota will fix it for free, IF the owner hasn't invalidated the
> warranty some way, e.g. fuel or abusive treatment.
>
> I stand by my assertion: NO hybrid breaks even from a fuel cost
> standpoint in any reasonable time period, and I believe that it
> is NEVER, if all factors are considered including the ding to
> your wallet for the hybrid thingy in the first place. If you have
> opposing views, factually, I will certainly listen. Until then,
> my view is that a Prius or Honda or Ford or GM or the coming
> Chrysler hybrids CANNOT show an economic advantage without gas
> getting into the $4+ range AND the car is driven for in excess of
> 20,000 miles/year, or as much as 30,000, as has been show many
> times in studies.
You're probably right, no one *NEEDS* a hybrid automobile any more than
anyone *NEEDS* a Hemi powered car. We buy what we want and if it feeds
our perception of our environmental consciousness, or our driving
skills, then so be it. Different strokes for different folks.
Of course, I may feel different when I get my $800/month child support
paid off this coming September and can trade my 1988 Toyota pickup that
I bought new off the lot. It's 19 years old and still going strong, but
I would like something a little newer. I kind of have my eye on a Jeep
Wrangler X 4X4, not because I need it to commute; So-Cal doesn't have a
big snow problem, but because after almost 20 years, I feel like I want
up upgrade.
Anyway, with the desert and mountains less than an hour away, I can make
use of the 4X4... :>))
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Tom - Vista, CA