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Author: LouDog0102
Date: Jul 17, 2008 05:25

I am going to try and be as detailed as I possibly can, given the limitations
of my computer knowledge....

I recently rebuilt a computer that I had originally bought from Alienware.
It was purchased at some time during 2002. When I rebuilt this computer I
purchased a new graphics card (VGA ASUS N7600GS SILENT/HTD/256M R), and a new
hard drive (WD 7K 8M ATA100 WD5000JBRTL). It's a 500G drive. My old hard
drive was 80G. It might be important to note that the old hard drive was
broken. This installation was done on the fresh hard drive, with the old 80G
drive and the old video card removed.

Anyway, when I first replaced everything I ran into the 137G barrier. Since
my Windows Restore CD was pre-SP1, the windows installation process didn't
recognize the full 500G. I installed Win XP onto that 137 partition and once
it was done I installed all updates, bringing me up to SP3. When I got all
of that done, I formated the remaining 300+G. This process made it into a
second partition. This was not by choice, but my only option. I didn't want
to have 2 separate partitions, but I decided it wasn't worth the hassle of
trying to fix and all was right with the world.

About 2 weeks later I decided I wanted to back up some of my DVDs onto my
hard drive. I downloaded a ripper, and when I went to rip I decided I would
put everything onto my larger, unused partition...
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Date: Jul 17, 2008 08:39

Does the BIOS properly recognize the size of the hard drive?

JS

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>limitations...
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Author: LouDog0102
Date: Jul 17, 2008 09:04

Yeah, the BIOS recognized the full size of the hard drive, but the original
XP without SP1 did not during install.

"JS" wrote:
> Does the BIOS properly recognize the size of the hard drive?
>
> JS
>
> "LouDog0102" discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9773D643-CD43-4072-A499-D852A7784FCC@microsoft.com...
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Author: Shenan Stanley
Date: Jul 17, 2008 09:22

> Yeah, the BIOS recognized the full size of the hard drive, but the
> original XP without SP1 did not during install.

Correct - nor would it be expected to. SP1 for Windows XP added support for
drives larger than 137GB (in essence.) All service packs after that
included SP1, thus included the support for drives larger than 137GB.

If I understand your whole story - you are complaining because it has a 4
minute boot time and perhaps some lag when doing some things?

When you installed drivers - did you install the motherboard chipset drivers
(downloaded to ensure they were the latest) from the manufacturer? Then
install the video, sound, etc? (Make sureyou have the latest version for
each.)

Also - check your system BIOS - check the performance settings, research
your particular motherboard and see if there are any settings you can tweak.
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Author: LouDog0102
Date: Jul 17, 2008 12:44

Thanks to both of you for the advice so far. I've found out some pertinent
information. I reformatted everything and it all went smoothly. I installed
my INF files and everything went fine. My wireless card drivers went fine.
At this point I had restarted more than a few times and everything booted up
nicely. As soon as I installed the display drivers it went back to it's old
ways. I don't know why this happens. I feel like it has to be the dispaly
drivers that are holding this thing back, although I don't know why. I tried
uninstalling the driver and I ran into some problems there. It said I need
to restart and that I needed to close a window before I did. I couldn't do
it in time and everything restarted and I still have the problem. Please
help.

*Video Card: Asus N7600GS Silent
I believe this is built off the GeForce 7600 GS series

*It uses the AGP Bus architecture

When I installed the drivers I used a "WinXP pro" version from Asus instead
of the ones that came with the disc. It installed fine but it made my
computer start the extremely slow startup process. I then tried downloading
a driver from NVidia. It did not help. Still the same slow startup time.

Is there any other system information that would be helpful?
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Date: Jul 17, 2008 13:01

Does your motherboard also have a built in video chip, if so disable it in
the BIOS.

JS

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> pertinent...
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Author: Daave
Date: Jul 17, 2008 16:00

"LouDog0102" discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> *Video Card: Asus N7600GS Silent
> I believe this is built off the GeForce 7600 GS series
>
> *It uses the AGP Bus architecture
>
> When I installed the drivers I used a "WinXP pro" version from Asus
> instead
> of the ones that came with the disc. It installed fine but it made my
> computer start the extremely slow startup process. I then tried
> downloading
> a driver from NVidia. It did not help. Still the same slow startup
> time.

I just visited that site. Did you download Version 91.31 (July 11,
2006)? And if so, did you download the 32-bit or 64-bit driver?
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Author: LouDog0102
Date: Jul 18, 2008 03:38

I'm not sure I know which site you are talking about. The Asus sight? I
have visited it, but I'm not sure if I downloaded that driver or not. I'll
be honest, I've downloaded so many drivers during the last couple of days
that I've lost count. Could you possibly send me a link to that set of
drivers on the site you are referring to? It would be greatly apprteciated.
Also, all drivers that I've downloaded have been 32-bit.

Also, I'm wondering if the problem could be related to something else. Do
the drivers load up before windows loads(like do they load up before you see
the splash screen?), or do they load afterward? If they do load afterward
maybe it isn't the drivers ?? All I know is that everything goes ok until I
install the video drivers and restart.

In case it is helpful, I will tell you what I know about my motherboard:

Pentium 4 Processor
D850MVE2 Motherboard

"Daave" wrote:
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Author: Daave
Date: Jul 18, 2008 04:42

"LouDog0102" discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not sure I know which site you are talking about. The Asus sight?
> I
> have visited it, but I'm not sure if I downloaded that driver or not.
> I'll
> be honest, I've downloaded so many drivers during the last couple of
> days
> that I've lost count. Could you possibly send me a link to that set
> of
> drivers on the site you are referring to? It would be greatly
> apprteciated.
> Also, all drivers that I've downloaded have been 32-bit.

This is what I did:

I found this Web page:

http://support.asus.com/download/download_item.aspx?product=9&model=N7600%%20Series&SLanguage...

I clicked on the + sign next to VGA. There is a choice of five drivers.
The 32-bit XP driver is:

nv9131_w2kxp.zip
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Author: LouDog0102
Date: Jul 18, 2008 06:15

Yeah, I tried those drivers, although I will say that I tried using them
after the problem had started. Meaning that I had already installed the
drivers included on the CD. Do the new drivers uninstall the old ones?

"Daave" wrote:
> "LouDog0102" discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:922EC0E6-D942-4EE6-BC95-9DE3476209E1@microsoft.com...
>> I'm not sure I know which site you are talking about. The Asus...
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