> Great information and assistance.
>
> 3%% on the 250GB is fine. But may raise to as high as 10%% for
> comfort
> sake.
> I feel better and assured all is well with my newly formatted
> setup.
>
> Thank you once again.
>
> Regards,
> Robert
>
>
>
>

>> The Recycler folder is a hidden systems folder. It's only
>> visible if
>> you go into Folder Options and change the appropriate
>> settings. Each
>> hard drive partition on your computer that's formatted NTFS
>> will
>> have a Recycler folder. Within that folder will be a Recycle
>> bin for
>> each of the user accounts that have logged on to your
>> computer. If
>> you delete the Recycler folder Windows will, as you've seen,
>> recreate it when you reboot. Translated, what you're seeing
>> is
>> normal. FYI, you should adjust the size allocated for the
>> Recycle bin on
>> your F drive so that there is room for the largest size file
>> you
>> might want to recover. With 3%% allocated on your 250GB,
>> should you
>> try to delete a file that's larger than 7GB, Windows will
>> tell you
>> the file is too large to fit in the Recycle bin and asks if
>> you want
>> to permanently delete it, effectively bypassing the Recycle
>> bin.
>> Translated, if none of the files on your F drive are greater
>> than
>> 7GB, 3%% is fine. If not, you might want to adjust the
>> allocation to
>> a higher percentage. As for the System Volume Information
>> folder, it's also a hidden
>> systems folder that will be recreated if deleted. Even if
>> you've
>> turned off System Restore monitoring for your F drive,
>> you'll still
>> see that folder. By default, you can't delete this folder.
>> If you
>> right click on it and select Properties from the menu it
>> will, by
>> default, show 0 KB for its size. To view the actual size of
>> this
>> folder, boot into Safe Mode and use the procedure I outlined
>> earlier
>> to give the Administrators group Full Control permissions to
>> this
>> folder. When you reboot you will now see the actual size of
>> the
>> folder displayed in its Properties sheet. Bottom line is
>> that what you are now seeing on your F drive is normal
>> behavior.
>>
>> Nepatsfan
>>
>>
>> In news:OSRHamZZHHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl,
>> Robert J. Lafayette wrote:

>>> Nepatsfan,
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Did as you suggested and the Recycler folder deleted in
>>> Safe mode as
>>> did the System Volume Information folder.
>>>
>>> But when I went back into Regular Start up mode a shaded
>>> System
>>> Volume Information Folder was there (but was previously
>>> gone when
>>> in SAFE mode) and I attempted to delete it and then a new
>>> shaded
>>> Recycler folder immediately appeared, along with an
>>> inaccessible
>>> shaded System Volume Information folder.
>>>
>>> I never before saw these two folders on this F drive before
>>> this
>>> formatting the C drive (reinstall of XP Home) and backup to
>>> the F
>>> drive which I did over the weekend to accommodate the
>>> format in case
>>> of a problem.
>>> If these two folders have inconsequential amounts of data
>>> so be it,
>>> but I do wish to control the computer and not have folders
>>> that do
>>> not belong on the F drive. Or do they belong?
>>>
>>> (Is it possible they were there all along and a setting was
>>> existing
>>> that did not allow showing hidden folders?)
>>>
>>> I went back and made sure the Recycle bin allowed a very
>>> small
>>> percentage (3%%) on the F drive, but again don't recall ever
>>> seeing
>>> this shaded Recycler folder or the shaded System Volume
>>> Information
>>> folders on the F drive before this recent reformat
>>> exercise.
>>>
>>> By the way, your suggestion about simply using in cmd "f:"
>>> worked
>>> beautifully and the drive changed to F.
>>>
>>> Further Suggestions?
>>>
>>> Do I care about the Recycler and the System Volume
>>> Information
>>> folders on the F drive?
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> "Nepatsfan" SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uKpWV4YZHHA.808@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> In news:Or$%%23srVZHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
>>>> Robert J. Lafayette wrote:

>>>>> Posted this in MS XP General forum and the only one
>>>>> posted
>>>>> solution was to reformat the backup (F) drive which is
>>>>> not
>>>>> possible at this time: it is functional with all my
>>>>> documents and
>>>>> pictures. My C drive is not large enough to move the data
>>>>> over to reformat
>>>>> the F ( backup) drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem:
>>>>>
>>>>> OS- XP Home, SP 2
>>>>>
>>>>> Four year old computer,
>>>>> Last week I did a reformat of my C drive, and
>>>>> appropriately backed
>>>>> my C drive up, my
>>>>> whole C drive,
>>>>>
>>>>> to an external 250GB HDD, 'F' drive just in case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did several backups-- again, just in case.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reformat and clean install of XP Home and SP2 went
>>>>> well onto
>>>>> my C drive, I installed my
>>>>> software and things seem fine on the C drive.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I wish to remove ALL my backup files/ folders, from
>>>>> my F
>>>>> drive, the 250Gb external HDD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most files were deleted.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, there remains two folders, two hidden folders:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) System Volume Information
>>>>>
>>>>> Can not even access the System Volume Information folder
>>>>> on the F
>>>>> drive at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Recycler (the one remaining file appears to be 3.2GB,
>>>>> and the
>>>>> system seems to have set the size of this file/ folder to
>>>>> march my
>>>>> external hdd. I have never seen this folder on my F
>>>>> drive
>>>>> before.) Problem is these two folders are not deleting
>>>>> from my external HDD
>>>>> (F) and a pop up
>>>>> message is telling me I can not delete then as they are
>>>>> being
>>>>> used, which is not/ should not be
>>>>> the case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please advise the best way for me to access these folders
>>>>> to
>>>>> delete them.
>>>>> I have changed attributes from read only but the hidden
>>>>> attribute
>>>>> remains, and some files and folders remain hidden and
>>>>> disallow
>>>>> deleting.
>>>>> Especially the one large file in the F drive Recycler
>>>>> that will
>>>>> not go away, that large
>>>>> 3.2GB file.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a suggested MS solution to remove a recycled
>>>>> file, but:
>>>>>
>>>>> In CMD.exe at C\documents and settings I typed cd f:\ and
>>>>> the
>>>>> command to change directories from my c drive to my f
>>>>> drive does
>>>>> not take place to allow me to access the file.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the MS suggested solution for the elimination of
>>>>> that
>>>>> recycler file via DOS prompts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am OK with the RECYCLER and System Volume Information
>>>>> folders
>>>>> being on my C drive and want to eliminate these folders
>>>>> only from
>>>>> my F drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please advise. Any assistance will be greatly
>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please be specific as to how to remove these unwanted F
>>>>> drive
>>>>> folders if it is at all possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>> Robert

>>>>
>>>> Right click your Recycle Bin icon and select Properties
>>>> from the
>>>> Menu. On the Global page, select "Configure drives
>>>> independently".
>>>> Click the tab for your F drive.
>>>> Move the slider to the left until it reaches 0%%.
>>>> Open your F drive and see if you can now delete the
>>>> Recycler
>>>> folder. If this doesn't work, you're going to have to boot
>>>> into
>>>> Safe Mode and see if you can delete it.
>>>>
>>>> Next, right click your My Computer icon and select
>>>> Properties from
>>>> the menu.
>>>> Click on the System Restore tab.
>>>> In the "Available drives" box, click on your F drive to
>>>> highlight
>>>> it and hit the Settings button.
>>>> Check the "Turn off System Restore on this drive" box.
>>>> Click OK.
>>>> Click Yes when asked to turn off System Restore for this
>>>> drive.
>>>>
>>>> Note: There is no reason to have System Restore monitoring
>>>> an
>>>> external drive. You want to leave this turned off. Windows
>>>> may
>>>> recreate the System Volume Information folder on this
>>>> drive but it
>>>> will take up a minimum amount of space.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to delete this folder, you're going to have to
>>>> boot
>>>> into Safe Mode and do the following.
>>>> Right click the System Volume Information folder.
>>>> Select Properties from the menu.
>>>> Click on the Security tab.
>>>> In the Security page, click on the Add button.
>>>> In the box that pops up hit the Advanced button.
>>>> Next, hit the Find now button.
>>>> In the bottom pane, click on Administrators.
>>>> Click OK.
>>>> Back at the System Volume Information Properties sheet you
>>>> should
>>>> now see the Administrators group added to the top pane.
>>>> In the bottom pane, make sure Full Control is checked.
>>>> Click OK.
>>>> You should now be able to delete the System Volume
>>>> Information
>>>> folder. While still in Safe Mode, right click the Recycler
>>>> folder
>>>> and see if
>>>> you can delete it. If not, follow the above procedure to
>>>> make sure
>>>> you have Full Control permissions. You may also need to
>>>> take
>>>> ownership of the folder.
>>>>
>>>> How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421
>>>>
>>>> "Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a
>>>> Folder
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881
>>>>
>>>> Here's another article you may find helpful.
>>>>
>>>> How to gain access to the System Volume Information folder
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309531
>>>>
>>>> Note: You can go back and reset your Recycle bin to have
>>>> one size
>>>> for all drives or adjust each drive to your preference. At
>>>> the very
>>>> least, go back and increase the size of the Recycle bin on
>>>> our F
>>>> drive to a size greater than 0%%.
>>>>
>>>> FYI, the Microsoft article that suggested you enter cd F:\
>>>> at the
>>>> command prompt was in error. To change to your F drive all
>>>> you need
>>>> to enter at the prompt is F:. You can leave out the cd
>>>> part and the
>>>> trailing \. Good luck
>>>>
>>>> Nepatsfan