> The Recycler folder is a hidden systems folder. It's only visible if you
> go into Folder Options and change the appropriate settings. Each hard
> drive partition on your computer that's formatted NTFS will have a
> Recycler folder. Within that folder will be a Recycle bin for each of the
> user accounts that have logged on to your computer. If you delete the
> Recycler folder Windows will, as you've seen, recreate it when you reboot.
> Translated, what you're seeing is normal.
>
> FYI, you should adjust the size allocated for the Recycle bin on your F
> drive so that there is room for the largest size file you might want to
> recover. With 3%% allocated on your 250GB, should you try to delete a file
> that's larger than 7GB, Windows will tell you the file is too large to fit
> in the Recycle bin and asks if you want to permanently delete it,
> effectively bypassing the Recycle bin. Translated, if none of the files on
> your F drive are greater than 7GB, 3%% is fine. If not, you might want to
> adjust the allocation to a higher percentage.
>
> As for the System Volume Information folder, it's also a hidden systems
> folder that will be recreated if deleted. Even if you've turned off System
> Restore monitoring for your F drive, you'll still see that folder. By
> default, you can't delete this folder. If you right click on it and select
> Properties from the menu it will, by default, show 0 KB for its size. To
> view the actual size of this folder, boot into Safe Mode and use the
> procedure I outlined earlier to give the Administrators group Full Control
> permissions to this folder. When you reboot you will now see the actual
> size of the folder displayed in its Properties sheet.
>
> Bottom line is that what you are now seeing on your F drive is normal
> behavior.
>
> Nepatsfan
>
>
> In news:OSRHamZZHHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl,
> Robert J. Lafayette wrote:

>> Nepatsfan,
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Did as you suggested and the Recycler folder deleted in Safe mode as
>> did the System Volume Information folder.
>>
>> But when I went back into Regular Start up mode a shaded System Volume
>> Information Folder was there (but was previously gone when in SAFE
>> mode) and I attempted to delete it and then a new shaded Recycler
>> folder immediately appeared, along with an inaccessible shaded System
>> Volume Information folder.
>>
>> I never before saw these two folders on this F drive before this
>> formatting the C drive (reinstall of XP Home) and backup to the F
>> drive which I did over the weekend to accommodate the format in case
>> of a problem.
>> If these two folders have inconsequential amounts of data so be it,
>> but I do wish to control the computer and not have folders that do
>> not belong on the F drive. Or do they belong?
>>
>> (Is it possible they were there all along and a setting was existing
>> that did not allow showing hidden folders?)
>>
>> I went back and made sure the Recycle bin allowed a very small
>> percentage (3%%) on the F drive, but again don't recall ever seeing
>> this shaded Recycler folder or the shaded System Volume Information
>> folders on the F drive before this recent reformat exercise.
>>
>> By the way, your suggestion about simply using in cmd "f:" worked
>> beautifully and the drive changed to F.
>>
>> Further Suggestions?
>>
>> Do I care about the Recycler and the System Volume Information
>> folders on the F drive?
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> "Nepatsfan" SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message
>> news:uKpWV4YZHHA.808@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> In news:Or$%%23srVZHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
>>> Robert J. Lafayette wrote:

>>>> Posted this in MS XP General forum and the only one posted solution
>>>> was to reformat the backup (F) drive which is not possible at this
>>>> time: it is functional with all my documents and pictures.
>>>>
>>>> My C drive is not large enough to move the data over to reformat the
>>>> F ( backup) drive.
>>>>
>>>> The problem:
>>>>
>>>> OS- XP Home, SP 2
>>>>
>>>> Four year old computer,
>>>> Last week I did a reformat of my C drive, and appropriately backed
>>>> my C drive up, my
>>>> whole C drive,
>>>>
>>>> to an external 250GB HDD, 'F' drive just in case.
>>>>
>>>> Did several backups-- again, just in case.
>>>>
>>>> The reformat and clean install of XP Home and SP2 went well onto my
>>>> C drive, I installed my
>>>> software and things seem fine on the C drive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now I wish to remove ALL my backup files/ folders, from my F drive,
>>>> the 250Gb external HDD.
>>>>
>>>> Most files were deleted.
>>>>
>>>> However, there remains two folders, two hidden folders:
>>>>
>>>> 1) System Volume Information
>>>>
>>>> Can not even access the System Volume Information folder on the F
>>>> drive at all.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Recycler (the one remaining file appears to be 3.2GB, and the
>>>> system seems to have set the size of this file/ folder to march my
>>>> external hdd. I have never seen this folder on my F drive before.)
>>>>
>>>> Problem is these two folders are not deleting from my external HDD
>>>> (F) and a pop up
>>>> message is telling me I can not delete then as they are being used,
>>>> which is not/ should not be
>>>> the case.
>>>>
>>>> Please advise the best way for me to access these folders to delete
>>>> them.
>>>> I have changed attributes from read only but the hidden attribute
>>>> remains, and some files and folders remain hidden and disallow
>>>> deleting.
>>>> Especially the one large file in the F drive Recycler that will not
>>>> go away, that large
>>>> 3.2GB file.
>>>>
>>>> There is a suggested MS solution to remove a recycled file, but:
>>>>
>>>> In CMD.exe at C\documents and settings I typed cd f:\ and the
>>>> command to change directories from my c drive to my f drive does
>>>> not take place to allow me to access the file.
>>>>
>>>> This is the MS suggested solution for the elimination of that
>>>> recycler file via DOS prompts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am OK with the RECYCLER and System Volume Information folders
>>>> being on my C drive and want to eliminate these folders only from
>>>> my F drive.
>>>>
>>>> Please advise. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Please be specific as to how to remove these unwanted F drive
>>>> folders if it is at all possible.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>> Robert

>>>
>>> Right click your Recycle Bin icon and select Properties from the
>>> Menu. On the Global page, select "Configure drives independently".
>>> Click the tab for your F drive.
>>> Move the slider to the left until it reaches 0%%.
>>> Open your F drive and see if you can now delete the Recycler folder.
>>> If this doesn't work, you're going to have to boot into Safe Mode
>>> and see if you can delete it.
>>>
>>> Next, right click your My Computer icon and select Properties from
>>> the menu.
>>> Click on the System Restore tab.
>>> In the "Available drives" box, click on your F drive to highlight it
>>> and hit the Settings button.
>>> Check the "Turn off System Restore on this drive" box.
>>> Click OK.
>>> Click Yes when asked to turn off System Restore for this drive.
>>>
>>> Note: There is no reason to have System Restore monitoring an
>>> external drive. You want to leave this turned off. Windows may
>>> recreate the System Volume Information folder on this drive but it
>>> will take up a minimum amount of space.
>>>
>>> If you want to delete this folder, you're going to have to boot into
>>> Safe Mode and do the following.
>>> Right click the System Volume Information folder.
>>> Select Properties from the menu.
>>> Click on the Security tab.
>>> In the Security page, click on the Add button.
>>> In the box that pops up hit the Advanced button.
>>> Next, hit the Find now button.
>>> In the bottom pane, click on Administrators.
>>> Click OK.
>>> Back at the System Volume Information Properties sheet you should
>>> now see the Administrators group added to the top pane.
>>> In the bottom pane, make sure Full Control is checked.
>>> Click OK.
>>> You should now be able to delete the System Volume Information
>>> folder. While still in Safe Mode, right click the Recycler folder and
>>> see if
>>> you can delete it. If not, follow the above procedure to make sure
>>> you have Full Control permissions. You may also need to take
>>> ownership of the folder.
>>>
>>> How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421
>>>
>>> "Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a Folder
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881
>>>
>>> Here's another article you may find helpful.
>>>
>>> How to gain access to the System Volume Information folder
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309531
>>>
>>> Note: You can go back and reset your Recycle bin to have one size
>>> for all drives or adjust each drive to your preference. At the very
>>> least, go back and increase the size of the Recycle bin on our F
>>> drive to a size greater than 0%%.
>>>
>>> FYI, the Microsoft article that suggested you enter cd F:\ at the
>>> command prompt was in error. To change to your F drive all you need
>>> to enter at the prompt is F:. You can leave out the cd part and the
>>> trailing \. Good luck
>>>
>>> Nepatsfan

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