"philo"
privacy.net> wrote:
>
>"Nardac"
aol.com> wrote in message
>news:d60eaf56-60b0-4d75-8560-3879448249a9@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>Might you just be low on conventional memory? If you have a SCSI and
>IDE cd drives, you're using both ASPI and ATAPI drivers, on top of
>everything else you might have. Even with a good memory manager (are
>you using one?) you might not be able to load everything in upper
>memory. Your previous motherboard might have had more room in upper
>memory. Why not have two SCSI cd drives, for example, you'll save on
>the ATAPI driver.
>You can use MEM with /C or /D to see what is happening with your
>memory.
>
>Claude
>
>On May 11, 3:45?am, Markus R. Ke?ler wrote:
>> Ron Martell gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Markus R. Ke?ler wrote:
>>
>>>>Hi there,
>>
>>>>perhaps someone can point me to some diagnostic software solving the
>>>>following problem:
>>
>>>>I have just replaced the mainboard in my mother's pc, because the
>>>>former mb, "tomato 586" was not running stable at all.
>>
>>>>Now, in this machine there is a "gigabyte s2" together with the Cyrix
>>>>200MHz processor and one 64MB memory bar, which I took both out of the
>>>>former mainboard and which worked.
>
>
>Since both motherboards seemed to give you a machine with the same
>problems...
>
>I'd suspect either the RAM
>
>or possibly the fact that the Cyrix cpu may not perform in exactly the same
>way an Intel chip would.
>
>I'd try different RAM and/or a non-Cyrix cpu
>
>
>>
>>>>The first thing occured was, that in a dos window, with or without
>>>>bash, the dos port of the UNIX vi editor exits with
>>>>"bash: C:/VIM/VIM63/vim.exe: Not enough memory (ENOMEM)"
>>>>I found out, that this problem can be avoided by _not_ loading the
>>>>cdrom drivers for the liteon ide cdrom and the yamaha scsi cd
>>>>recorder. - Anyway, this is not a preferred solution ;-)
>>
>>>>Now I had to see that even picture publisher 5.0, which works on any
>>>>other machine I have, crashes when it comes to average memory usage.
>>>>So, it is no longer possible to seriously work with that application.
>>
>>>>Can anyone tell me about some diagnostic software which can help to
>>>>see what's wrong with that box?
>>
>>>>P.S. The former mb still exists, though I just planned to kick it
>>>>away, but I'd really dislike to admit, that I was talking crap and
>>>>that nasty old "tomato" garbage was better than the newly installed
>>>>gigabyte mb, and so I switched it back...
>>
>>>>Any hint?
>>
>>>What version of Windows are you running? ? You probably need to do a
>>>reinstall (Windows 3.x) or a Repair Install (Windows 95/98/Me/XP) in
>>>order to configure the motherboard drivers correctly.
>>
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>> I already did a complete reinstall of windows for workgroups version
>> 3.11. But even without any windows drivers, like SVGA and soundcard
>> drivers the problems occur.
>>
>> What's puzzling me is, that the former mainboard did work. It just
>> crashes from time to time without visible reason.
>>
>> But I remember that there were similar problems with a wfw3.11 box
>> with nearly the same parts in it, just a 486 instead of a pentium.
>> But there was also a scsi cdrom (here it is a scsi cd recorder) and an
>> ide hdd. - Maybe the ide controller does not like to have a scsi
>> system next to it?
>>
>> Also, netscape 4.08 is working fine until it has to load huge amounts
>> of data. Then the screen turns to black and the machine freezes.
>> It looks like netscape allocates memory but the memory controller or
>> the windows memory management denies that attempt?!
>>
>> I have no clue what to test next. - Is there some "diagnostic tool"
>> which allows to "look" into the memory to see how it is beeing used
>> and where the limits are?
>>
>> Thanks a lot,
>> best regards,
>>
>> Markus
Hi Claude, hi Philo,
thanks for your hints, and, yes I tried different DIMM RAM modules
from 32 to 64MB, but there was no difference in the behaviour. I also
testes nearly every combination of mainboard settings in the BIOS, but
with no result. So the RAM seems indeed to be used differently by
different mainboards, though I don't know why.
Well, as soon as I'll have access to this machine again I'll either
install a scsi cdrom to not having to load the ide cd driver in
addition to the scsi one, or, since this is a 4 speed scsi cd recorder
in that machine, maybe it can be replaced by a faster one with ide
interface. I heared that the oak ide to scsi driver worked with most
ide cdroms in dos.
B.t.w., can someone recommend some brands / types of ide cd recorders
that had already been used successfully together with the mentioned or
a similar driver?
Many thanks again,
best regards,
Markus