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Mainboard replaced - nothing but problems now         


Author: Markus R. Keßler
Date: May 10, 2008 13:31

Hi there,

perhaps someone can point me to some diagnostic software solving the
following problem:

I have just replaced the mainboard in my mother's pc, because the
former mb, "tomato 586" was not running stable at all.

Now, in this machine there is a "gigabyte s2" together with the Cyrix
200MHz processor and one 64MB memory bar, which I took both out of the
former mainboard and which worked.

The first thing occured was, that in a dos window, with or without
bash, the dos port of the UNIX vi editor exits with
"bash: C:/VIM/VIM63/vim.exe: Not enough memory (ENOMEM)"
I found out, that this problem can be avoided by _not_ loading the
cdrom drivers for the liteon ide cdrom and the yamaha scsi cd
recorder. - Anyway, this is not a preferred solution ;-)

Now I had to see that even picture publisher 5.0, which works on any
other machine I have, crashes when it comes to average memory usage.
So, it is no longer possible to seriously work with that application.

Can anyone tell me about some diagnostic software which can help to
see what's wrong with that box?
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Re: Mainboard replaced - nothing but problems now         


Author: Markus R. Keßler
Date: May 11, 2008 02:45

Ron Martell gmail.com> wrote:
>Markus R. Keßler wrote:
>
>>Hi there,
>>
>>perhaps someone can point me to some diagnostic software solving the
>>following problem:
>>
>>I have just replaced the mainboard in my mother's...
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Re: Mainboard replaced - nothing but problems now         


Author: Nardac
Date: May 11, 2008 11:35

Might you just be low on conventional memory? If you have a SCSI and
IDE cd drives, you're using both ASPI and ATAPI drivers, on top of
everything else you might have. Even with a good memory manager (are
you using one?) you might not be able to load everything in upper
memory. Your previous motherboard might have had more room in upper
memory. Why not have two SCSI cd drives, for example, you'll save on
the ATAPI driver.
You can use MEM with /C or /D to see what is happening with your
memory.

Claude

On May 11, 3:45�am, Markus R. Ke�ler wrote:
> Ron Martell gmail.com> wrote:
>>Markus R. Ke�ler wrote:
>
>>>Hi there,
>
>>>perhaps someone can point...
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Re: Mainboard replaced - nothing but problems now         


Author: philo
Date: May 11, 2008 14:10

"Nardac" aol.com> wrote in message
news:d60eaf56-60b0-4d75-8560-3879448249a9@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Might you just be low on conventional memory? If you have a SCSI and
IDE cd drives, you're using both ASPI and ATAPI drivers, on top of
everything else you might have. Even with a good memory manager (are
you using one?) you might not be able to load everything in upper
memory. Your previous motherboard might have had more room in upper
memory. Why not have two SCSI cd drives, for example, you'll save on
the ATAPI driver.
You can use MEM with /C or /D to see what is happening with your
memory.

Claude
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Re: Mainboard replaced - nothing but problems now         


Author: Markus R. Keßler
Date: May 12, 2008 03:48

"philo" privacy.net> wrote:
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>"Nardac" aol.com> wrote in message
>news:d60eaf56-60b0-4d75-8560-3879448249a9@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>Might you just be low on conventional memory? If you have a SCSI and
>IDE cd drives...
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Re: Mainboard replaced - nothing but problems now         


Author: philo
Date: May 12, 2008 04:48

>>>
>>> Markus
>
> Hi Claude, hi Philo,
>
> thanks for your hints, and, yes I tried different DIMM RAM modules
> from 32 to 64MB, but there was no difference in the behaviour. I also
> testes nearly every combination of mainboard settings in the BIOS, but
> with no result. So the RAM seems indeed to be used differently by
> different mainboards, though I don't know why.
>
> Well, as soon as I'll have access to this machine again I'll either
> install a scsi cdrom to not having to load the ide cd driver in
> addition to the scsi one, or, since this is a 4 speed scsi cd recorder
> in that machine, maybe it can be replaced by a faster one with ide
> interface. I heared that the oak ide to scsi driver worked with most
> ide cdroms in dos.
>
> B.t.w., can someone recommend some brands / types of ide cd recorders ...
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Re: Mainboard replaced - nothing but problems now         


Author: Markus R. Keßler
Date: May 14, 2008 14:40

On Mon, 12 May 2008 06:48:07 -0500, "philo" privacy.net> wrote:

- cut -
>> Well, as soon as I'll have access to this machine again I'll either
>> install a scsi cdrom to not having to load the ide cd driver in
>> addition to the scsi one, or, since this is a 4 speed scsi cd recorder
>> in that machine, maybe it can be replaced by a faster one with ide
>> interface. I heared that the oak ide to scsi driver worked with most
>> ide cdroms in dos.
>>
>> B.t.w., can someone recommend some brands / types of ide cd recorders
>> that had already been used successfully together with the mentioned or
>> a similar driver?
>If you suspect the problem is with the cd rom
>remove it ...and the drivers entirely and run the machine for a while
>and see if that's the problem

Hi Philo,

that's the point - any time I load both, the ide AND the scsi drivers
this will be too much for that machine.
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Re: Mainboard replaced - nothing but problems now         


Author: Markus R. Keßler
Date: May 22, 2008 06:51

Hello world!
>This afternoon I got a HP 8250i cd burner / reader which I intend to
>test with taht box.

I just installed the mentioned hp cd writer together with the well-
known OAK aspi driver and everything works perfectly!

The cdrw drive, ( which I am very proud of, because it is a gift from
my former Karate trainer ;-) who has just upgraded his machine and
thus does not need this device any more ) is now working together with
the 'lite on' cdrom in master- slave- mode, both at the secondary ide
interface. So, finally, I threw out the adaptec 2940 as well as the
yamaha 4416s and the adaptec scsi drivers. Now, there are no memory
problems left.

I'd like to say 'thank you' to everybody for this interesting
discussion!

Best regards,

Markus

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