I have a rule that fails to catch all the targeted mail in my InBox.

But if I then run the rule manually (with"Run Rules Now") the remainder of
the targeted mail in my InBox gets handled properly by the rule.

This inconsistancy between when the rule is run automatically and manually
is weird.

Anyone have any suggestions?

PS Outlook 2007 on Vista.

"Tom" wrote in message news:udXGvHYFIHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

You are running ONLY the one rule when you exercise it manually. That
means you are not also running all the other rules. Rules are
exercised in the order they are listed. You have prior rules that get
triggered and prevent or interfere with your later problematic rule.
You can change the order of your rules, or better analyze them to
determine what should be their proper order and if you are using the
correct conditions within your rules.

If you select ALL rules when you run manually, does the problematic
rule work or not?

Yes, when I enable all rules and running them manually, the problematic rule
works.

Thanks.

Your message got me to thinking and I suspect that Outlook's built-in spam
detecting rules are superceding my rule.

Since a spammer starting spoofing my return address, I'm getting buried by
"bounced" messages: about 50/hour.

Outlook's internal spam detector is moving these messages to a "Junk"
folder.

However there are so many of them, that when reviewing the "Junk" folder, I
can't spot the handful of other email that sometimes is flagged as spam but
isn't.

I'm trying to create a custom rule that would automatically move these
messages to a "Bounced" folder rather than the automatic "Junk" folder.

So, I think your analysis is correct: another rule (Outlooks internal spam
detector) is getting to these emails first. I'm going to try turning off
Outlook's "Automatic" filtering (as much as I hate to) to see if my rule
then is applied. At least then I'll understand what's going on.

Tom none.com> wrote:

It would help if you posted the exact rule text and an example of a message
you think should trigger it.

Tom none.com> wrote:

The Junk E-mail filter runs before the Rules engine. You can't change that.
You can, however, as you say, reduce the sensitivity of the Junk E-mail
filter or, if you find those messages, add the sender to your Safe Sender's
list (or in the case of a mailing list, add the list address to the Safe
Recipients list).

The only rule I have is:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
with 'undelivered' or
'Mail delivery failed' or
'Mail delivery failure' or
"FAILURE NOTICE' or
'Returned mail' or
'Undelivered:' or
'(Failure)' or
'Returned to Sender' or
'Undeliverable:' or
'undeliverable' or
'warning:' or
'Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients' or
'Undeliverable'
move it to the Spoofed folder

An example of email that is not having the rule applied:

I omitted, when transcribing my rule in my previous e-mail, to type in the
words "in the subject"

"Tom" wrote in message news:OeX1kYlFIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

Then I would suspect you are attempting to exercise a rule that checks
for a string but within HTML-formatted e-mails. The string
"superfluous" is not the same as "superfluous". While YOU
don't see the HTML formatting, especially because it toggles on and
off the bolding but affects no characters, your rule will still see
all the HTML tags. All HTML is plain text but e-mail clients will
attempt to render the HTML formatting which can mean some effects are
invisible to you.

"Tom" none.com> wrote in message
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