> 1. Correct. You can also look in file | open backup for a day or two after
> closing if you need to get to the OneNote created backup (for instance, if
> you deleted the original .ONE file, or lost the thumbdrive which held it or
> similar).
>
> 2. Saving it from the open notebook. Right click the notebook in OneNote
> and select Save As...
>
> 3. Having an extra backup only gets you one mroe backup. I've had some USB
> drives last for less than a year, and others that have been laundered many
> times and still work fine. Having extra backups is always good.
>
> 4. Yes. Just copy the files from your most recent backup (if it ever comes
> to that) and they will work fine.
>
> Thanks for the kind words about my blog. And lastly, if there is one
> comment we get over and over about Onenote, it is "keep it simple." We're
> trying :)
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> John Guin
> OneNote Test Team
> http://blogs.msdn.com/johnguin
>
>
> "dvjames" wrote:
>

>> Thank you for the reply. Great blog, btw. We've all been bitten by the
>> "wished I would have backed up" bug.
>>
>> A few questions (I'm a NOOB with ON, so please forgive me ahead of time if I
>> ask something that's obvious - you know how it goes, people invent something
>> and the users end up devising a million ways to use in unanticipated ways):
>>
>> 1. Just relating to your emergency tactics - ON notebooks have to be open
>> for the notebooks to be in the cache (if your original drive where your core
>> ON files dies)? I keep multiple notebooks, not all of which are open at the
>> same time. I may not have the Personal Notebook open at work, for example.
>>
>> 2. Again on your tactics for drive failure - When you say you are "saving
>> the cache", are you talking about the physical cache in the Office folder
>> (default location) or are you talking about saving it from the open notebook.
>> I went down to the default cache location and while there is a notebook open,
>> there is no visible file there. I checked to see if I have all hidden files
>> showing and I do.
>>
>> 3. Backing up using OneNote - get all the notebooks open that you want to
>> back up, sync, then backup. What does backing up using OneNote get me over a
>> simple copy of the Thumbdrive? Does it make sure to gather up all the
>> attached files on that computer?
>>
>> 4. Backing up the thumbdrive - so I make sure to sync the files each time
>> and back those files up on a different drive or using home.live.com, my thumb
>> drive subsequently dies and I copy those files down to a new thumbdrive and
>> off I go. Right?
>>
>> This is just a general question or a sense of wonderment at ON, I attach a
>> file at work, come home, click on the attached file and it opens. The way it
>> does this is somehow effortless and some of these are REALLY BIG files. Where
>> in the world does it save the attached files? Along with syncing, this
>> continues to amaze me because using ON is just simple and flexible once you
>> have a few of the basics down. I know there are limits and the more I use ON
>> I'll run into them, but a lot of times I'll just do what is logical and it
>> just works. The complex parts are behind the curtain. Please protect the
>> simplicity of this product!
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dennis James
>>
>>
>> "John Guin [msft]" wrote:
>>

>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> 1. If the drive dies, you still have your notebook in the cache of all your
>>> machines. You can save it from there (as either .ONE or .ONEPKG files) and
>>> restore whereever you want. Since you have multiple machines, you have (in
>>> effect) multiple backups already. I had a similar eventhappen to me and I
>>> wrote about it at
>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/johnguin/archive/2008/03/07/still-living-in-the-onenote-cache...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. I've never worried about the folder structure once I choose a location
>>> for a notebook. You mentioned attached (embedded) files in OneNote pages -
>>> they are typically stored in a drive on the local machine. For instance, my
>>> embedded files are at
>>> C:\Users\John\AppData\Local\Microsoft\OneNote\12.0\OneNoteOfflineCache_Files
>>> (on my vista machine). This is in addition to the .ONE file. And OneNote is
>>> pretty resilient with moving folders around. Just right click on them after
>>> moving and select "Open as Notebook in OneNote" if you feel the need to
>>> restructure the files in the file system, but it's probably not worth the
>>> effort.
>>>
>>> 3. My notebook on the flash device is about 250MB. The device is a 4GB
>>> device, of which 2GB is devoted to ReadyBoost. So far, no problems. I have
>>> a separate notebook on a USB device in which I took nothing but ink notes,
>>> and it capped out at 150MB.
>>>
>>> --
>>> I hope some of this helps,
>>> John Guin
>>> OneNote Test Team
>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/johnguin
>>>
>>>
>>> "dvjames" wrote:
>>>

>>>> Typically I would have one discussion for each question, but these questions
>>>> are all connected to using ON on disconnected computers. So up front, sorry
>>>> for the 3 questions here.
>>>>
>>>> I keep my OneNote notebooks on a thumbdrive as the different computers I use
>>>> are not always able to connect. This works fine as ON keep track of changes
>>>> for me. However, I have several questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. What happens is the thumbdrive fails? I know that I have copies of the
>>>> notebooks on each device and I am continuously syncing (thank you ON
>>>> developers). But what happens if the thumb drive fails? Having backed up on
>>>> each computer, restore backup files on one computer to a new thumbdrive then
>>>> resync the other computers? Will ON sync properly?
>>>>
>>>> 2. What folder stucture would you use for the documents from several
>>>> disconnected computers you insert into ON? I understand that you can keep any
>>>> documents attached from wherever they are on any computer that is synced, but
>>>> some kind of structure makes sense. I don't keep every document in ON, but I
>>>> am keeping more and more in it (it is addictive). Like any database, once you
>>>> create a folder structure and attach docs, you can't change it so getting the
>>>> folder structure right up front is important (please don't give me the
>>>> Apple-side of folder structure, I already know what an Apple can do and Apple
>>>> doesn't have OneNote).
>>>>
>>>> Do you keep the attached documents in each notebook folder (which could end
>>>> up putting a staggering number of files in one folder and make it hard to
>>>> find the .one file) or do you keep a separate folder for the notebooks and
>>>> documents?
>>>>
>>>> Each computer I use now has an important unique set of documents (word,
>>>> photoshop, etal). My toplevel structure is _OneNote (for notebooks) and
>>>> _OneNote Documents (for attached documents) in the My Documents folder. I
>>>> then have the OneNote Documents folder dividied into the kinds of notebooks I
>>>> keep (like Internal Projects, External Projects, Partners, etc.). I may have
>>>> a third level of folders under Partner such as the name of the partner.
>>>>
>>>> 3. When is the Thumbdrive going to be too small? The total so far is about
>>>> 7MB, but I'm sure that someone has multiple GB in ON. Anyone else use ON like
>>>> this?
>>>>
>>>> Just a statement: ON is a totally new kind of program in it's ability to
>>>> sync like this. There is something weirdly freeing and uncomplicated about
>>>> not having to worry about where your data is and what is happening to it -
>>>> you can have it with you (or not), you can update anytime you want no matter
>>>> how you are connected, and you can use any form of input you want (keyboard,
>>>> pen, or record) - right now I'm using a Motion Tablet. I've been using
>>>> computers for a long time and I don't remember any software product with
>>>> these abilities. I am still trying to get used to that fact. While I'm sure
>>>> there's errors and whatnot, it seems to do it seamlessly up to this point
>>>> 100%%.
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dennis James