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Author: KianKian Date: Aug 12, 2008 01:15
Hi
Im a guy from Denmark who recently saw the the advantages of using mac.
Sadly i love the office programs (still - havent tried seriosly the mac
programs yet, but maybe i should), because they are the ones i am used to use
in my daily work/study/life.
I have read most of the post on this site, and I think you are
underestimating the potential oppertunety and threats about this issue. This
post is meant as a good advice on a strategic level for you.
Clearly their is a market demand for one-note. If i wanted to win market
shares in the long term from Microsoft, here's my chance.
Mac are getting more popular all the time, and if microsoft cant see this,
then you are suffering from one of the greates threats a firm can experience.
Lack of indifference becaus you firm has gotten so big. Whar usually happens
is that "the big firms" slow down and stop to compete and developing edge new
technology software - what is mac doing and why are they succesful in these
times???
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Author: Rainald TaeslerRainald Taesler Date: Aug 12, 2008 13:32
Kian,
well put.
In order to be heard at least by the developers, you may post this as a
suggestion for future development in "Connect", the place for submitting
suggestions and bug reports to the developers team:
http://connect.microsoft.com/onenote/
When done, pls drop a note with the URL in here so that we can jump in
and vote for your suggestion
Rainald
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Author: Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote)Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote) Date: Aug 12, 2008 20:08
Well, with all due respect, and I say this as a guy who owns a Mac, you
don't gain market share by devoting substantial resources to developing
for a platform with less than 10%% market share.
If developing a version of OneNote for the Mac was trivial then it would
probably be done (or close) already.
In my opinion, and this is just opinion, there are three obstacles to
the development of a Mac version:
1. It's not an insignificant task. The Windows version is heavily
dependent upon services provided by the OS so developing a Mac version
would probably require a near total rewrite of the app. That's a pretty
big deal and the OneNote team, who are not a big group, probably don't
have the resources to both develop a capable Mac version of the product
AND continue to develop the Windows version. Given the choice between a
Mac version or a Windows version I suspect they'll continue to develop
for the platform with ~90%% market share.
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Author: KianKian Date: Aug 12, 2008 22:52
Hi Ben
Thank you for your reply. I know in the real world the tihungs you mention
are not unimportant. i have no graeter understanding of programming or how
all the technical details work. I just hope to make you see this in the long
term. Microsoft has a responsebillity in my opinon to meet the users demand,
not create patch solutions, but tyr explaning this to you CEO (you would
problably answer).
But maybe it would be worth the while even if the cos of developing the
program are substancial. After all it didnt stop Columbus and look what came
of that ( two qutie different things - i know, but anyway).
So my goal it to express my need and wish for you to develop a full
oficepack for the mac, and sure, you have come far, but why not go alle the
way when the need only can become larger. After all the best way to make
productdevelopment is to aks the custormer what he wants - its really that
simple (ask Kottler ;-)).
But thanks for your reply and taking this post seriuosly.
Best regard
Kian Nielsen, Denmark.
"Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote)" skrev:
> Well, with all due respect, and I say this as a guy who owns a Mac, you
> don't gain market share by devoting substantial resources to developing
> for a platform with less than 10%% market share....
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Author: Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote)Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote) Date: Aug 12, 2008 23:37
Well, it has to make sense from a business standpoint. It's a
substantial undertaking that will likely require them to hire quite a
few new developers to produce it. Then they have to package it and
market it and support it and...
At the end of the day they have to be able to sell enough copies of it
to make it worth doing and right now I just don't think the numbers make
sense. Certainly we have a steady trickle of people who wander in and
want OneNote for Mac, but I haven't seen the groundswell of demand for
it that makes me think they'd sell millions of copies. Especially
considering the fact that increasingly Mac users are happily are running
Windows apps in VMs.
If they're only going to sell a few thousand copies they may have to try
and sell it at a price point that doesn't make sense - again Microsoft
is a business, not a charity. They're only obligated to produce
products people will BUY and in great enough numbers to turn some kind
of profit.
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Author: Rainald TaeslerRainald Taesler Date: Aug 13, 2008 14:50
Kian wrote:
> So my goal it to express my need and wish for you to develop a full
> oficepack for the mac,
So please do as I recommended in my last posting.
*Connect* is the place for suggestions.
> After all the
> best way to make productdevelopment is to aks the custormer what he
> wants - its really that simple (ask Kottler ;-)).
I didn't ask him , but knowing his approach to marketing I take the
liberty to add: Asking the customers just is not enough ;-)
"we want to have" shouted by thousands does not mean that there would be
a profitable niche in the market.
Rainald
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Author: Rainald TaeslerRainald Taesler Date: Aug 13, 2008 15:14
Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote) wrote:
> the Tablet PC really shows the power of OneNote and there isn't any
> Mac Tablet.
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