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Re: ON2007B2: "Flip through pages" broken?         


Author: Grant Robertson
Date: Jul 12, 2006 19:33

In article , srd152000
@yahoo.com says...
> This is unfair. Grant read presumptions into Patrick's comment that were
> simply not present, not by any stretch of the imagination.. It was such a
> gross distortion that I think it was disingenuous. Then you just assumed
> Grant had a point, or worse, agreed with him. But maybe for you it
> involves fine points of English.
>
> Here is where Grant misrepresents what Patrick was saying:
>
> "You pretending that they don't exist and that pressing the
> control key should be easy for anybody doesn't jive with the
> whole tablet/stylus centric model that ON is supposedly built
> around."

A) I think Patrick will live through the ordeal.
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Re: ON2007B2: "Flip through pages" broken?         


Author: Patrick Schmid
Date: Jul 12, 2006 22:57

Heard back from MS: "Thank you for the feedback, this issue has a
potentially large impact and will be evaluated for consideration beyond
the beta timeframe."
In plain English: This is MS's catch-all message for issues that they
recognize as such, but won't fix for 2007.

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"Grant Robertson" BOGUS.com> wrote in message
news:uShqpSipGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
> In article , srd152000
> @yahoo.com says...
>> This is unfair. Grant read presumptions into Patrick's comment that were
>> simply not present, not...
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Re: ON2007B2: "Flip through pages" broken?         


Author: Rainald Taesler
Date: Jul 13, 2006 12:12

Thanks for your effort, Patrick.

Too bad!
I menawhile fell over quite a larger number of similar issues where
one is helpless without a keyboard.

This and the overall usage of the "task aerea" (sorry, don't know the
English term) instead of the space saving dialogs makes me think that
the develpoers' and Quality Assurance teams did not really base there
concepts and their tests on TabletPCs as a major field of concern.

Any responsable person being tied to exclsusively using a "slate"
would have stumbled over only too many areas where the concept goes
half way only [siiiigh]

Rainald

Patrick Schmid nospam.pschmid.net> shared these words of
wisdom:
> Heard back from MS: "Thank you for the feedback, this issue has a
> potentially large impact and will be evaluated for consideration...
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Re: ON2007B2: "Flip through pages" broken?         


Author: srd
Date: Jul 13, 2006 12:32

It is disingenuous to say as you did that someone is "pretending" that
something is a certain way, unless you are more than "pretty sure" it was
their position. Don't make false accusations of pretense and expect not to
be called on it. No, I don't respect your time that much that I would
excuse your conduct because you are short of it (something I hardly
believe, any way, given the volume of your posting).

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:33:16 -0700, Grant Robertson bogus.com>
wrote:
> B) I read the messages in the order they are presented to me by my
> newsreader. It is in threaded order not exact chronological order. I am
> pretty sure I read at least two messages by Patrick defending the ctrl-
> tap-slide method before I made my comments which were before I read
> Patrick's mention of having entered a bug.

--
Stephen R. Diamond
srdiamond@gmail.com
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Re: ON2007B2: "Flip through pages" broken?         


Author: Patrick Schmid
Date: Jul 13, 2006 12:41

> Too bad!
It's unfortunate, but over time you get really used to this response. I
stopped counting how many of my 300+ submissions where closed with that
resolution. In the beginning of the beta, I got really annoyed by it. By
now, I just accept it and move on. I simply don't have the time nor
willpower to fight that resolution for the 100 or so times I probably
have seen it....
> I menawhile fell over quite a larger number of similar issues where
> one is helpless without a keyboard.
Couldn't you bring up the on-screen keyboard?
> This and the overall usage of the "task aerea" (sorry, don't know the
> English term) instead of the space saving dialogs makes me think that
> the develpoers' and Quality Assurance teams did not really base there
> concepts and their tests on TabletPCs as a major field of concern.
ON is mainly used not on TabletPCs (20% or something like that are
tabletPC users if I remember the numbers from a blog post correctly).
However, if you have a tabletpc, you are almost certainly going to use
ON...
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