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How prevalent is ON used?         


Author: exciter
Date: Sep 8, 2007 09:15

I live in the Netherlands.
I dont see anybody else other than me using ON and this is surprising me.
I find it very useful and always think that people dont know what they are
missing by not using it.
I am in academics and I read all academic articles in ON.
That is I paste the article on ON pages and read them in ON because I can
higlight and add comments while I am reading.
And as I keep many articles, I can search for keywords which helps me to
pinpoint which articles has analysed an issue corresponding to that keyword.

Sometimes I think MS should make a video advertisment with me =)
I remember the ON2003 video ads... There were 4 and funny ones...
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Re: How prevalent is ON used?         


Author: Mike Kaliski
Date: Sep 8, 2007 12:02

"exciter" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I live in the Netherlands.
> I dont see anybody else other than me using ON and this is surprising me.
> I find it very useful and always think that people dont know what they are
> missing by not using it.
> I am in academics and I read all academic articles in ON.
> That is I paste the article on ON pages and read them in ON because I can
> higlight and add comments while I am reading.
> And as I keep many articles, I can search for keywords which helps me to
> pinpoint which articles has analysed an issue corresponding to that
> keyword.
>
> Sometimes I think MS should make a video advertisment with me =)
> I remember the ON2003 video ads... There were 4 and funny ones...
>
> Anyway, I dont know why people dont use ON here.
> If I see anybody using it, I will be very happy to tak about it...
> But nobody seems to be interested, even after I have explained them in ...
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Re: How prevalent is ON used?         


Author: Hector C.
Date: Sep 8, 2007 20:59

ON is the only reason I do not migrate to Apple. My classmates with Macs
outnumber (by an ample margin) to us PC users. They main reason is tight
integration and PDF support (and hype in the academic community). For
example, equations are easily typed in LaTeX and then pasted in their
presentation software (as vector graphics with intact fonts, etc). When
I mention ON and show them how intuitive is note taking, they just stare
back at me. They don't have any idea of what kind of software ON is.
Features like shared notebooks or integration with Outllook are
irrelevant for students.

Maybe MS should push vendors to create tablets with better graphic
chips. It is well known how Intel integrated graphics do not measure
against the competition. But tablet PCs carry only Intel graphics. It's
sad because ON then we have to choose between the tablet features of ON
and decent graphics performance.

I also found out about ON with my new laptop.

++Hector C.

Mike Kaliski wrote:
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> "exciter" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I live in the Netherlands.
>> I dont see anybody else other than me using ON...
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Re: How prevalent is ON used?         


Author: Rainald Taesler
Date: Sep 9, 2007 15:56

Hector C. wrote:
> Features like shared notebooks or integration with Outllook are
> irrelevant for students.

Depends on the IT environment of the student.
In case one has only *one* computer the feature of "shared notebook"
ands synching does not matter.
If the student has more than just one computer (typically a notebook and
a desktop) having the notebooks automatically synched is a most
important feature.
I do not know any another piece of software which solves the problem of
keeping computers in sync in such a fantastic way.

Rainald
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Re: How prevalent is ON used?         


Author: Hector C.
Date: Sep 9, 2007 17:18

We use two laptops and one desktop. One laptop is for my wife and I use
the other one. I use Beyond Compare to update my files
(http://www.scootersoftware.com/) and my wife's to the desktop.

Now, I've never used the sync option in ON, so I don't know how it
works. Does the synchronization happen at file level (earliest file gets
overwriten) or there is some sort of revision control system (RCS) where
you are asked to approve the changes to check in? Can I integrate the
synchronization in the batch files I use for backup? The only advantage
of using ON sync would be if there is RCS; otherwise, even just a batch
with "xcopy /M /D" will work.

Perhaps I extrapolated too much: there are only 3 of us using ON in my
department and we don't use the sharing features nor integration with
Outlook. A classmate even has her files in a USB flash drive and uses
the department computers (all of them have ON installed!) when she
doesn't bring her tablet PC.

++Hector C.
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Re: How prevalent is ON used?         


Author: Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Date: Sep 9, 2007 21:23

The ON synchronization happens at the paragraph level - which is to say that
you can make changes on the same page on both machines and as long as you
didn't make changes to the same paragraph they'll sync just fine.

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com/outlook.htm

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Re: How prevalent is ON used?         


Author: Josh Einstein
Date: Sep 9, 2007 22:45

Actually, if I recall, doesn't it happen at the object level? Things like
ink are segmented at a finer level than paragraphs and stuff like images and
other objects on the page would not be contained within a paragraph.

At any rate, the point is OneNote sync is extremely good and rarely, if
ever, conflicts due to the fine granularity of sync.

--
Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
Einstein Technologies
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com

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> that...
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Re: How prevalent is ON used?         


Author: exciter
Date: Sep 10, 2007 02:33

You keep ON files on a usb stick.
There is no problem of sync then.
I do it like that.
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Re: How prevalent is ON used?         


Author: exciter
Date: Sep 10, 2007 02:40

> When
> I mention ON and show them how intuitive is note taking, they just stare
> back at me. They don't have any idea of what kind of software ON is.

This I dont understand. Why one would stare when you mention about a note
taking program.
It happened to me too.
Occasionaly I happen to show something on ON and hardly anyone wonders what
this program is about.
I dont know what is wrong with people...
Or they are not very interested in being organized as I do...

Well quantification of "being organized" is a little difficult, and more if
the efficiency does not seem to change.
But for me, with ON I can keep diverse subjects in folders and I am able to
reach them easily.
And I believe I can develop myself in an organized way in the various
subjects I am interested.

Anyway I am not going to advertise ON anymore...
People are free to miss.
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Re: How prevalent is ON used?         


Author: Rainald Taesler
Date: Sep 10, 2007 02:49

exciter wrote:
> You keep ON files on a usb stick.
> There is no problem of sync then.
> I do it like that.

You are working with ON2003, aren't you?

The scheme of synching in ON2007 is quite different.
The usage of a USB-stick instead of sharing the files and have them
synched automatically whenever the machines are connected is not the
proper way of doing things under ON2007.

Rainald
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